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Hi George

 

Check your 'personal messages' at the top right.

 

You are going to be busy eh? A point about RAF colours. As yours, like mine, is a later version, '44 onwards, then during the war it would not be painted in RAF blue /grey at all. From that date all MW's for the RAF and Army came off the production line in the same olive drab. I would have thought, but have no photo or other evidence to back this up, that RAF ones on Malta probably had the same distinctive 'Malta' stonework camo as army vehicles. If however you are painting it in postwar RAF colours then blue/grey would be correct. Depending upon which post war period, then it may require gloss black front mudguards and front bumper. Maybe Ted could pitch in on this one?

 

DUNCAN Sorry I missed this earlier; George several weeks ago i passed info you requested via Aidan Fisher including pictures . But to recap Duncan is spot on various "sand/stone" shades in use. Often with the Malta stonework pattern, I would suggest by late 1944 things arriving from UK would be in Light Stone or in OD and then repainted in-theatre. post 1946 it may have gone to Blue grey (with or without black mudguards etc ) but by 1954 would be going back to Lt Stone. But remember the orders always said only repaint as necesary or as per special instructions So possibly some vehicles in Malta never went to Blue grey during their Service life. George I think your best bet with these things is find out an items age then decide in which colour scheme after that date you want to recreate and then look at markings colours etc . I am currently waiting for more AMOs from Hendon but they must be on a go slow !! Trouble is AMOs through WW2 do not fully reflect what went on in overseas commands that was up to the AOC in C of that theatre or command. But Malta is well documented pictorially and once you choose a recreation date it should be plain sailing

Good Luck

 

TED

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Your question about the 2 Italian MWs.

a) The one in Como is a late production with Chassis No. MWD64770 making it 1944. This is finished up in Mickey Mouse Camoflauge.

 

b) The second one I had seen something like 25 years ago, I think it is still unrestored but in a collectors' hands. I will know more on Saturday. No. chassis No. yet.

 

Have to go

 

Clive

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Z195253 / HKA 730

 

Sorry, I don't know the website URL's anymore where these pics came from.

That was restored by the late John Stott of Southport. It was a recovery truck in Blackpool after demob and John spent years restoring it, it was as new right down to the early leather dip stick that sits in the passenger side on the engine cover.

 

Good to see it rallying.

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Some more pictures of early MW's. I have included the Jersey one as this is now back in the north of England

Sorry if some have been posted before, but then again you can never have too many pictures of early British stuff!!

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Hello hanno,

There's a picture of that one in the first post, i believe this one is a 1943.

 

Thanks brooky a couple of new ones, SFF is one i've heard about but that is the first picture i've got of it, looks quite a good one, i think pete gain owned this one not to long back. PFF is mick from leeds, i haven't seen that picture before, from his bonnet number its from the same batch as mine i really want the chassis number of it as i know he traced the history of it with the RLC.

The one with no number plate i haven't seen before either.

The jersey one, i've been in touch with the new owner glynn and got the chassis number of it 2000 after mine. I'm still trying to work out how many aeroscreen one were made.

 

SFF was photographed at Woodvale rally a few years ago and was owned by a guy from Stoke on Trent (i think) and from memory he aquired it from Bletchley park.

I will stand corrected on all that info, time plays funny tricks with my memory!!!

The unregistered on is owned by Ian Durrant and resides in Lincolnshire. If you do a search on "the gunner" I am sure you will find his website dealing with deacts etc.

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*thread hijack*

 

SFF was photographed at Woodvale rally a few years ago

Don't suppose you happen to have taken a picture of a Austin K9 GS cargo truck from the same year as the MW was there? If so, any chance of a copy? Thanks.

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I have a TV doco on tape . WW2 in colour or something . In one scene, what looks like a MW Bedford .. with a van body . Ministry of Food or something on the side of it. The weird thing is, its painted in disruptive camo ..Light Stone and a fancy sky blue colour ,looks very flash . it could be a 30 cwt..but not sure .

 

Whats the deal with the yellow / bright blue camo ?

 

Mike

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'Nit picky detail I know, but does anyone have any suggestions as to what the regular pattern of 4 drilled holes on the front bumper seen on some vehicles was for? Visible on the sand one attributed to the DLI museum in post 1(is that the name of the Newcastle museum, where I've seen this one?) and also on one of those in post 23. Either side of the radiator area, large and small 'offset'. They suggest the bolting on of some standard bit of kit(s). Any ideas what? Obviously not something just on the earlier models as some later ones have them as well'.

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Hi guys,

Just a note to let you know that should you venture north into the beautiful area around Newcastle, you will find that the DLI museum and the North east Military Museum are two different museums. The North east military museum is located in a listed 1929 building in the centre of Exhibition Park, Newcastle, but there were public access issues because of the state of the building.Not sure how the situation stands at the moment.www.nemvc.org.uk. The DLI is close to the centre of Durham City and as it name says, specialises in the history of the Durham Light Infantry. There are limited vehicle exhibits ( I remember a Jeep), but still well worth a visit. However, confusion may have arisen as the NEMVC (the Newcastle museum guys) hold their excellent annual open day on the lawns surrounding the DLI museum on August Bank Holiday weekend. Definitely one for your diaries.Plenty of heavy kit from the likes of Geoff Maskell and Denny Thompson and you will be assured of a great Geordie welcome! regards,Mike.

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Hi Clive,

Sorry off topic too. Yes, 'owned' in the past tense is the right word. tax man wanted some money so my beloved 1604A went back to the Army in a preserved state 35BK00, also had 26BK06/30BK51/33BK76 and a couple of others which, unfortunately, died!

Yes, will find time to post pics of her!

regards,

Mike

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Hi Rippo,

 

sorry I dont know more,

 

pictures is from my friend, want buy, :cry:

 

only tell me Bedford is in France.

 

You know Im enthusiast for Bedford MW,

 

try search more info or try make agreemet about this MW, for change or

 

I dont know.

 

Tomas

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Yeah that looks like an early one to me, the doors look like ql ones, where abouts is it?

 

hi Rippo,

 

The pressing of the mould line on the door is similar to a QL, but I think the doors are more likely from a prewar Bedford W type, they had a vertical front edge, moulding similar, where as the QL had (fixed) quarterlights to the front of the rising window glass.

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hello richard,

Hope you had a safe journey home, did you have any more problems with your fuel? And your right again i didn't notice the quarter lights, is it the same vehicle the cab was taken from for the QL?

 

Hi Rippo,

 

No more fuel problems, but after leaving the ferry we did have the oil pipe to the oil filter fracture, depositing most of the sump contents. Luckily stopped it in time, sealed the pipe, topped up and got home alright, thanks.

 

re. the doors, I think the pressing for QL doors was a modification of the by then, obsolete W type cab doors. No other part of a W cab appears on a QL, from what I can see.

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