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Another item out of the hidden depths of a garage. I note it is missing the carb and mag, so aside from those does it turn over and would it run? Doug
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nz2 started following WW1 truck lamps , 1916 RFC Crossley Tender restoration , N Z Thornycroft and 1 other
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Enlarging the photo shows the lorries all appear to be Leyland's based on the holes along the front chassis cross member. Both Crossley and Leyland were the major suppliers to the RFC, so this photo could well be a training exercise or similar. Some of the lorries are each towing a high sided trailer , while other lorries have a box body with a curved metal roof ( or stretched and painted canvas roof). The combination of the two body types being folding canvas and the rigid covering makes an interesting contrast . Doug
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Many years latter and more chain drive Thornycroft parts are now at home. I was told of a chassis and rear axle having been pushed over a bank after ending it's second life as the base for a mobile saw mill. A number of visits to the site to sort out a way to retrieve this had occurred, then interruptions with covid times delayed an attempt by a few more years. This last Summer ( Southern Hemisphere ) I spent 4 days making an access track and slowing winching the items a distance of twenty seven meters out of the gully. Multiple hand winches, chains and strops were used to guide past trees, stumps and most importantly, to stop it rolling further down the slope. After all the effort and once out on to the paddock, it only took a short time with a tractor to lift the pieces on to a trailer. The rear section of the chassis has been cut off beyond the rear springs, and the area about the reart springs has also been cut, but was welded back underneath the forward chassis section. The chassis has been stripped of any fittings riveted on. There is no sign of and Id numbers stamped about the front dumb irons. To add to the photo session two front axles of the type were set up under the front. Each are slightly different in the pattern of the rim to spokes area, and one is narrower in track than the other. The Thornycroft build register does mention a narrow track model. Another day we will bring out the farm trailer collected some years ago which has an axle, wheels , springs with spring hangers and chassis mounts. Parts from five different vehicles have now been collected up about New Zealand. Now to find a M2 engine then a gearbox and diff as a combined unit. Doug
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That would depend upon projected use. For lots of road work they hold an element of risk. For the occasional circuit about a show ring, those tyres could be suitable. Aside from placing such an axle back on a truck restoration project, to restore a trailer like this also shows a further use that parts were put to. It would look nice in a display with the trailer attached to a suitable vehicle. An aspect of restoration rarely seen.
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That pattern of wood work for the trailer frame would probably date it from the 1920's-to early 30's, making the axle somewhere between 5 to 15 years old when utilised. Those tyres still look usable having no rust heave noticeable between the tyre and steel band.
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Can you give the measurement between chassis mounting points. Height, length and width over. Also flywheel diameter
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Any more photos of this available?
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Is this seat as per the original specs regards height and depth, or have you altered it to suit our larger body size for these times. Is the seat higher, as we are taller than our earlier generations and also the cab wall has to be back a little more to allow us to fit in Doug
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The bus body to the left has windows progressively smaller to the rear, suggesting it was a charabanc with raised seating to the rear. Perhaps the glass windows are a latter upgrade rather than the open sides. The bus in the centre has a delightful body style with the curved sections about the window tops. Doug
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That lamp design showed so little change over the decades. Even the box and labels are a worthy presentation item. Doug
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Where were these numbers stamped? Can you show a photo of the location. I have found similar stamping on a gearbox and take them for the initials of the assembler or foreman doing the work. Doug
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Some years ago I came across a pair of solid rubber tyre wheels. There were no makers markings on the spokes or other parts however the pattern was showing as being from Leyland Last month my son Karl was in that part of the country and arranged to collect them. Now they are home and cleaned down the mounts for the springs, brakes and spoke shape all indicated early Leyland. We can now confirm the Leyland heritage, with help from Rick Sutcliffe. These come from a Leyland S3. 30 from 1913 and match the Sutcliffe's Barnsley bus. The axle housing has been gas cut at some time, so the diff section is missing along with the rest of the vehicle. Like so many of the wheels we have come across, these may have been used as a trailer in a second life. Confirming the identity of his pair of wheels takes Karl's Leyland collection back another three years in the timeline. Hopefully one day photos of this lorry will turn up.
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Is that mark above the letters RAF a crown replacing the broad arrow, or is it a polarity indicator? Doug
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Some searching has found BB4 190 as fitted to Q chassis no. 10910 leaving the factory on 30-8-1924 However the engine may not be the original as things got swapped about over a vehicles life. hope this helps Doug