cosrec Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Oh dear not again ! :red: Something went wrong... Only driver to blame should not have had body in the air when going down motorway Sorry about that just relised commented on video that appears after above one finishes. Edited December 13, 2012 by cosrec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond-t-steve Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) I'm impressed with the way the "experts" do things.......Not! Something went wrong... Edited January 1, 2013 by Marmite!! Youtube tags added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m109a3uk Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 They must have wanted to put it on its wheels as they had already dropped the prop!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 yes got me a bit confused shear laziness i think. Didnt win them any browie pionts in my eyes. anyone spotted what is doing the actual winching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 yes got me a bit confused shear laziness i think. Didnt win them any browie pionts in my eyes. anyone spotted what is doing the actual winching I say it is a Leyland Martian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) I say it is a Leyland Martian Look again its got twin rear wheels but i am been unfair as i know your half right its a scammell crusader with martian gear there is another video on you tube of same truck winching an mt 8 wheeler out of soft to be honest the crew seem to be making a meal of that job as well Edited December 28, 2012 by cosrec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Look again its got twin rear wheels but i am been unfair as i know your half rightits a scammell crusader with martian gear there is another video on you tube of same truck winching an mt 8 wheeler out of soft to be honest the crew seem to be making a meal of that job as well Ah, it was the bodywork I looked at, now I do recollect seeing it in the other video, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Even the good guys get it wrong http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/7601855/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Even the good guys get it wrong http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/7601855/ Definitely spoilt their day ! Hind sight says always put your jacks out I guess ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recymech66 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Ouch, good training video though. How not to do it. The unfortunate thing is if it's going to go wrong there is little or no warning, lucky nobody was injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 The guy who's wrecker flipped over is so thick someone had to tell him to go and shut the engine off....Dumb ass....oh my trucks on its side...i know I'll just wander round while it continues to destroy itself....Clever bloke.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recymech66 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 He looks in shock, last thing on his mind probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Heres another video taken at scene not good quality but gives a better understanding of what they where doing and what lead to chain of events causing wrecker to flip. The manouvre is called an end roll and as long as wreckers are big enough capacity and have twin overhead winches it is a fairly safe procedure. When i saw first video i thought a cable broke but after seeing this video i can see a pully block in the rigging so that side of it was rigged correctly. So it must have been the chain looped into the eye of the container thats gone. down to selecting right tackle i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty2 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Towing Dingo/Ferret is a special one. If you are no careful you will break the gearbox when towing it. If you have to, take care the transfer case is in neural else you blow the gearbox. Although the Dingo and Ferret look small you can not push them a round, they are just to heavy. The reason you will blow it, has to do that all special gears are running at full speed when you tow it, even when the box is in neutral. Because the box is in neutral the gearbox oil pump which is at the engine end is not working so there is no lubrication in the box when towed. Peter Hommes Owned Dingo's for over 18 years http://www.milmarket.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty2 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) If you transporting a vehicle you often see people taking great care that it will not roll off on the back. How fast do you need to take off to get it rolling off? The thing to worry is when you have to make an emergence stop or you hit something and you stopped at once. Physics (1/2mv2 ) tells you that the amount of energy released at that moment is massive. If the Vehicle weights 1000 kilos the stress the robe(s) from the back has to take will access of 80 tons when you travel at 30 miles. Incase you hit something and stopped at once, be more afraid what comes form the back. I have seen a JEEP coming through the driver cabin and stop only half way. Also the Jeep was shortened by 30 cm's (1 ft) Happy pottering around in the MV's Peter Hommes http://www.milmarket.org Edited January 6, 2013 by monty2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snort Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 If you transporting a vehicle you often see people taking great care that it will not roll off on the back. How fast do you need to take off to get it rolling off? The thing to worry is when you have to make an emergence stop or you hit something and you stopped at once. Physics (1/2mv2 ) tells you that the amount of energy released at that moment is massive. If the Vehicle weights 1000 kilos the stress the robe(s) from the back has to take will excite 60 tons. Incase you hit something and stopped at once, be more afraid what comes form the back. I have seen a JEEP coming through the driver cabin and stop only half way. Also the Jeep was shortened by 30 cm's (1 ft) Happy pottering around in the MV's Peter Hommes http://www.milmarket.org As I often have a 25 ton machine behind me on rubber tracks on the low loader it makes me think about how many chains to put on it to keep it there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty2 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 As I often have a 25 ton machine behind me on rubber tracks on the low loader it makes me think about how many chains to put on it to keep it there!! well I do know but take 0,5 x 25 ton * ( m/s )^2 = at 30 mph it is 0,5 * 25.000 * (48000m/3600 sec)^2 = 0,5 * 25000* (13,3)^2 = 2200 ton of kinetic energy is released if stopped at once. When you strap it real tied, with no slack at all on the chains it may hold, but if there is a little speed build up any chain will snap. I suggest you take some serious chains, not one that holds the dog. Peter http://www.milmarket.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snort Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 well I do know but take 0,5 x 25 ton * ( m/s )^2 = at 30 mph it is 0,5 * 25.000 * (48000m/3600 sec)^2 = 0,5 * 25000* (13,3)^2 = 2200 ton of kinetic energy is released if stopped at once. When you strap it real tied, with no slack at all on the chains it may hold, but if there is a little speed build up any chain will snap. I suggest you take some serious chains, not one that holds the dog. Peter http://www.milmarket.org yes I always have plenty of heavy chain on but it does make me wonder, always keep them tight as you say. however when you take in your calculation perhaps I should go down to Portsmouth for some Anchor chain next time! I am not doubting your figures in any way though.:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty2 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 John, not to worry, you will never been stopped in one go, so the energy will not be release all at once. In case you are stopped at once i don't think you have to worry any more what comes from the back. But considering the calculations a always laugh when a see people taking great effort to prevent it from rolling off on the back but not much for stopping it come forward. regards Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 earlier to day i posted under no snow but it worked out good for us so a couple of pics and will give advice whats going on [ATTACH=CONFIG]71907[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]71908[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big ray Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 John, not to worry, you will never been stopped in one go, so the energy will not be release all at once. In case you are stopped at once i don't think you have to worry any more what comes from the back. But considering the calculations a always laugh when a see people taking great effort to prevent it from rolling off on the back but not much for stopping it come forward. regards Peter Absolutely, I am amazed at the times that I see the vehicle secured at the front of the trailer with a chain, and a rope fixed at the rear, I am of course refering to lighter vehicles, cars,Jeeps, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Ouch http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83029613#KE7uwUWaB2RGkuk2.01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Ouchhttp://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83029613#KE7uwUWaB2RGkuk2.01 They should know better than stand next to a tow cable, especially with someone gunning the towtruck to yank another vehicle out.:nono: Edited January 20, 2013 by Enigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) [YOUTUBE][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KyFJuF0-lI/YOUTUBE] what can you say???? Edited January 22, 2013 by cosrec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 [YOUTUBE][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KyFJuF0-lI/YOUTUBE] what can you say???? I wonder why he continued driving? Is the road going downhill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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