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  1. Incidentally Ted, in the background of the photo of the people dancing in costume is what appears to be a GMC 6x6 and trailer. Do you think that it is a visitor or RAF vehicle?
  2. Thanks Ted. A nice selection of vehicles in the background. I can make out Crossley Q and a four wheeled office type trailer but not an Albion.
  3. Yes, I agree, so lets see some more photos or comments from Ted, especially his take on the Commer Q2 with a green roof.
  4. So are you saying Ted that the Nobel s colours are the same after all, or the name is wrong. Surely one is a dark green and the other is grey tarmac?
  5. Dear Bob, Its great to have you on board so to speak with Ted and Matchfuze etc as RAF Vehicle Colour Specialists. I correspond with Mike Starmer too and of course I am familiar with his MAFVA info. One point - I'm reliably informed that Nobel's Tarmac (Dark) Green No.4 is not the same as Nobel's Dark Tarmac No 4, with the later being the colour of tarmac. That is unless there is confusion with (Dark) Green No.4 in having 'Tarmac' in its name. Ted Angus knows. Keep up the good work !
  6. Dear Bob, Thanks for sharing these photos. The following is my take on the vehicle photos; 1. Starting with the Albion AM463 refueller in the back ground it does look green and brown rather than two greens of G3 and G4. 2. The Trolley Acc in RAF blue-grey is quite typical, as it is too insignificant to get the camo treatment 3- The four shots of the Bedford MSC vehicle also look to be decidedly green and brown, even if I adjust the colour and although I admit to being a doubter of such schemes, I think at the time of the Battle of Britain there was either a lack of AMO guidance for the RAF in the UK or perhaps a decision that locally acquired paints etc should be used until an AMO gave guidance. I know we have to make allowances for colour movie film but I cannot 'change' it on the PC to be G3 green and G4 dark green. Never say never? 4. Regarding the WAAAF on the Fordson N I have posted this on HMVF before. I did wonder if this was a colourised photo. Assuming it isn't I have been told on here that it may be a hurriedly purchased civi tractor that were switched from being orange and delivered in gloss green. It still has the Fordson lettering picked out in red - orange. As for the wheels ??? 5. The Westland Whirlwind shot shows a Trolley Acc in RAF Blue Grey with white wheels as mentioned previously. Why white? 6. The Fordson Roadless and Bowser I have seen before and referred to Mike Starmer (of WW2 colours fame) and he like me, in comparison with other shots from the sequence, says it appears to be G3 base coat with G5 Light Green as camo. Could that be the answer to the Bedford MSCs mentioned in 3. above? This photo dates to August 1941. 7. The Albion AM463 refueller in front of the Spitfire also dates from 1941 appears to be G3 Green but not much else shows. It is from Life Magazine I think. 8. The Commer Q2 with a green upper camouflage in a 'quasi' mickey mouse scheme is very interesting to me as I am logging examples of when the RAF got it wrong (or not). I'm guessing the vehicle is in a base coat of SCC.2 brown and that it dates from a mid war period when using up G4 instead of Nobel's Dark Tarmac No.4 was more common ( or so we might assume). Have you a date and place Bob, for this photo? 9. The rear end of the staff car is IMHO G3 and G4 but apart from RAF personnel hard to know if it's RAF 10. The Fordson Type 1301 I have seen on the web, but the Albion Ambulance behind the colours are 'different' 11 . The Commer Q15 head on is from the same film as the Fordson Roadless and Bowser above, as it almost certainly Green G3 base with G4 dark green camo. 12. the AEC 6x6 Bowser. Either G3 and G4 too or more likely is it SCC.2 with G3 camo, which fits with the 1942-45 Lancaster years. 13. Is the Fordson N and WAAF towing a blockbuster another example of a Gloss Green and 'brown' wheels vehicle as in 4. above. 14.Another AEC 6x6 with SCC.2 base coat and Black, Dark Brown or even Green camo? 15. I cannot say much except the bowser appears to be camouflaged. 16. Thanks for the photos of the David Brown tractors. that with a yellow bonnet dates from late 1944. So to recap thanks Bob for these attachments, and interestingly or perhaps embarrassingly, the photo of that Fordson 7V I saw some years ago in the 601 Sqn film is still 'missing' !
  7. Well RAF blue grey seems to have been used on all manner of tools and equipment that was not of a size that mattered regarding aerial observation by the Luftwaffe. Incidentally i have seen tool compressors that have been camouflaged and yet Trolley Accumulators that have had RAF blue grey wheels and white wheels too.
  8. By chance i was passing WH Smiths and noticed they are selling a paperback/ magazine called Military Trucks Archive and Volume 6 was on AEC Military vehicles including more than trucks, so armoured cars and tanks too, from 1930s up to Militant and beyond.
  9. My Land Rover Lwt, over the last few years has had E5 in it and due to Covid, especially last year, was not driven much. The only thing I noticed on my last drive but one, was that I had to give it full revs when the Carb started a momentary spit, as if there was grit in the fuel. I thought it was in need of a new fuel filter which I have yet to fit. But I wonder now if it is E5 coating the needles? Is E5 too low to do much harm. It still starts and drives ok.
  10. One final thought - is there any way to spot the difference in photos? Any distinguishing features between an O854 and an 854?
  11. BOBC, Like Ted Angus (my partner in crime relating to RAF Vehicle Colours) I too was after a shot of the Fordson 7V as requested a mere 10 years ago on this thread. Any help with a screen shot of the Fordson 7V would be gratefully received via a PM or via Ted or on here Did you by chance see the recent programme on TV called 'Dig 1940' concerning the Battle of Britain? The programme showed clips from a very rare 'home movie' in colour, by W Rhodes Moorhouse showing 601 Sqn Hawker Hurricanes in the BoB. But as the film panned across a group of pilots in the background was an RAF truck in green and brown camo - which looked the same colours used on the Hurricanes - not that I'm claiming it was the same paint. Thanks in advance Larry
  12. The AEC Matador 4x4 was called 0853 and the other 6x6 versions were AEC 854 and 0854 (and not to be called Matador!) But what is the difference between an AEC 854 and 0854?
  13. Well Ruxy, I need to revisit Texaco Petrol in Romsey but each pump was marked accordingly, so i avoided E10 for E5 on the other pumps, luckily without getting in anyones way. Obviously a pointless exercise till next month. Perhaps the guy with the stickers was off till 3rd Sept so did not want to disappoint!
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