Nick Johns Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) A replacement show in the South is the Excellent Capel Military vehicle show on the Surrey / Sussex border 1-2nd July, so many tanks & armour, reenactors, & military Helicopters last year https://www.capelmilitaryshow.com/ Edited February 11, 2023 by Nick Johns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Agree with Nick, I went for the first time last year & was very impressed by the exhibits & the helpfulness of the organisers. But my advice would be to avoid tangling with the M25, it took me 8 hours to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I'd third that, had to miss last year but went in 2021 - when it had been pushed back to September - for the first time. An excellent show with a really great feel to it - like the W&P of old. We arrived just before 9am and I hear that the queues to get in after this were quite lengthy - but that shouldn't put you off from attending and for me a day at a show should be just that. I'd also add YWE to your list of must attend shows. A great event for the north of the UK which attracts people from all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) On 2/7/2023 at 5:59 PM, 64EK26 said: Hi W&P has had it's day, It was great fun (even when it was muddy) ..... but time to move on. There are plenty of other shows on As for advertising a 2023 event.... there is no mention of it on the Hop Farm events page see https://thehopfarm.co.uk/events See you at Solent Overlord, Southwick D Day, Capel, Military Odyssey and some other smaller local shows Cheers Richard I see a suspicious looking white van on the right........ Edited February 14, 2023 by Enigma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) Oops, double posted. Edited February 14, 2023 by Enigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I think it is safe to say that it is game over. Will be interesting when people start to ask for the money that is owed to them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 18 hours ago, Jack said: I think it is safe to say that it is game over. Will be interesting when people start to ask for the money that is owed to them.... A lot already Have Jack. 'The guilty' have been taken to the small claims courts. & the Claimant's claims upheld. I would advise anyone who really wants thier financial outlays to be returned. To do the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdrop358 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Last night, a post on the Facebook page 'Post war military vehicle group appeared' from someone who W&P would seem to owe money to. He posted that ticket sales would commence in mid March. I asked him where this information came from and he replied "I phoned W@P last week, they informed me that ticketing will be open from mid March, I then looked at the Hop Farm events page to discover that there is no mention of W@P, indeed, there are Hop Farm events advertised for the supposed dates". The W&P web page hasn't changed and all the social media links on it are dead. There has been no advertising that I can see and according to the post above, they are already being taken to SCC (and losing).. At this stage, what's the point? Edited March 13, 2023 by snowdrop358 Spelling / not wearing my glasses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I would not go there if they paid me Awful people...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I think it is time to move on and assume it is dead. No one will go anyway, and in fairness, Brexit would have done damage to the show. Outrageous management (lack off) and Brexit nailed this once mighty show. I hope everyone gets their refunds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR100 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 For those in the South East and East Anglia you may like to look at the Echoes of History show in August. Run by a registered charity (the Essex Historic Vehicle Association) near Wickford in Essex. https://www.echoesofhistoryshow.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR100 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 If ticket sales are to happen from mid March, given the financials available I have seen on the company, I would not give the W&P organisation any money in advance of the show itself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Odd, ..The Hop Farm is not listing any events, its closed for maintenance ? Edited March 13, 2023 by Nick Johns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTanks Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Hey, I went to The Suffolk Military Show last year and can highly recommend. Looks like the dates for this year are 29th & 3oth July. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svdwal Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 The War and Peace Show had become history itself, all we see now and probably will see in the near future, are cries beyond the grave. Given the fact that no action is undertaken or news is shared so short before the event we can only conclude that it is gone, all that remain are the lovely memories of this once marvelous show. Just my 1p opinion, Rgds. Sjoerd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sim60 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 So they have finally cancelled the show and to try and get any money back you have to apply to Kewans who are an insolvency firm so probably little hope of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdrop358 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 https://warandpeaceshow.com/ Thank you for your interest in the War and Peace Show. Sadly, due to events beyond our control, the show has been cancelled for the foreseeable future. If you have already purchased tickets for the show, please contact Katie Young at katie@kewans.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) The email address for refunds, Kewans, is an Insolvency company ! so assume W&P Revival Limited is Insolvent Edited April 5, 2023 by Nick Johns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pearson Posted April 5, 2023 Author Share Posted April 5, 2023 So, the final admission that there was never a real intention to put the show on, it was just a way of taking and then keeping other people's money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, John Pearson said: So, the final admission that there was never a real intention to put the show on, it was just a way of taking and then keeping other people's money. Taking and keeping other people's money is STEALING ! Stealing is to permanently deprive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Haven't been for many years, personally thought it was better at Folkestone Racecourse, just my opinion, as for Brexit , that's not the downfall of the W&P, its just greed and bad management. The last time I went it was back at hop farm, but they had ditched the reduced entry for serving personal and no reduction for Veterans..... that says it all about the people running it. That was my final visit as far as I was concerned. Hope to get to the YWE this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 It's really sad how this went the last few years, I've attended many editions and I always loved coming there in the old days. I will miss it. On the other hand, maybe this will give someone else the opportunity to build a show to match those golden days? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR100 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 An interesting question raised above about whether, when the 2023 dates were advertised there was any intention from the directors to of War and Peace Revival Ltd run a 2023 show. Someone who is owed money may wish to pursue this question. The show was dying anyway. My last visit was 2019 (my first was at Tenterden) and it was clear the number of stalls was falling and the number of vehicle and other entries was also down. My wife heard stallholders actively discussing whether there was a better venue and some of the key traders in my area of interest were already absent. There has already been remarks here about the absence of interest in their stall at Stoneleigh in 2022 and the removal of the concessions for veterans and serving personnel showed a remarkable ignorance of the mores of this hobby. There is also a further question. With the rise of the internet, forums such as this, facebook groups, the real rises in the cost of fuel and the increasingly hostile road environment for old slow vehicles. do we need a large national rally with all the risks attached for the organisers? A range of good regional and local events would seem to be the way to go. A view no doubt controversial but I will be interested in others' views. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sim60 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) I agree that smaller(or large) regional shows are the way forward but what W@P had that none of these have are the vehicles and owners from Europe and the stall holders from Europe( there are a few Europeans coming over to other shows but not in the same numbers), maybe in the future some of the shows closer to the ports/tunnel might have some/more of these vehicles etc attend. Edited April 6, 2023 by sim60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootes75 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, DaveR100 said: There is also a further question. With the rise of the internet, forums such as this, facebook groups, the real rises in the cost of fuel and the increasingly hostile road environment for old slow vehicles. do we need a large national rally with all the risks attached for the organisers? A range of good regional and local events would seem to be the way to go. A view no doubt controversial but I will be interested in others' views. I tend to agree with this. I like to be able to drive to a show, so hundreds of miles is out of the question. I also like it when friends and family etc can also come along cause its close enough to home to make a day of it. We are part of a local re-enactment group and there are plenty of smaller events throughout the year for us to attend either with the vehicle or without. I do understand the pleasure in seeing a big show, we always attend GDSF and seeing so many vehicles and people in one place is lovely. I can see an argument for both sides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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