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I just found that there is something engraved on the tank "Camp de Beverloo". This are Belgian baracks from 1835 after the country seperated it's self from the Netherlands.

I did find this old postcard on the web.

 

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From the text:


NEBRASKA TRUCK HOARD AUCTION!! Selling Over 950 Trucks & Vehicles!! An amazing collection of Rust-Free Western Nebraska Gems!! Brand Names include: Diamond T, Peterbilt, GMC, Chevy, Dodge, Ford, International, Autocar, White, McDonald, Kenworth, Freightliner, Federal, Reo, Stewart, FWD, Oshkosh, Studebaker, Jeep & Others!

Autocar? Do you have enough yet Steve? 

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Hi All,

I aquired this pouch last night, it's still in the post, so I can't show you anything more of it yet.

 

The non eagle glove snaps make me think 1917-18, and they may have patent dates inside confirming that.

It's not a modified first aid or Squad medical record pouch, so I'm guessing it's a vehicle records pouch, unless someone here knows more?

 

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Best Regards,

Adrian

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Hi All,

just to add the pouch has now arrived.

It's a little bigger than expected, the pouch itself measuring 8 inches by 5 inches. 

The snaps are also larger than expected, and a different deign to the 'Glove snaps' of the WW1 first aid pouches, etc. 

The stamping on the front is 

TRUCK N°____

but with no sign of a number having been written or stamped on.

Best Regards,

Adrian

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The US marking ( as opposed to USA ) and the typeface of the Truck No suggests pre-WW2.  

They used to have trip record cards for each truck in peacetime, and this looks like a suitable size to hold those.

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Hi, @Cel

I couldn't find the patent, but it appears to be late (very late) Victorian. That is also the style of the Coat of Arms.

The company appears in The Automobile Pocket Book of 1900 as a maker of Safety Guards.

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Information from Graces Guide.

Best Regards,

Adrian

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Seems odd to get enthusiastic about a parts-washer, but that's lovely. 

Page 207 here has them listed at West End Mill
https://www.bradfordfhs.org.uk/_resources/tradedirectories/post-office-bradford-directory-1887-8.pdf
And that itself is listed between Norcroft Brow and Longside Lane which leads me to suspect that they were here:
https://goo.gl/maps/CnQ4BdY45PUBDhYX9

or here

https://goo.gl/maps/rUxbMDfzEHvShNht8

The first one seems have been demolished by the university, if you move about it disappears. 

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3 hours ago, andypugh said:

Seems odd to get enthusiastic about a parts-washer, but that's lovely. 

Page 207 here has them listed at West End Mill
https://www.bradfordfhs.org.uk/_resources/tradedirectories/post-office-bradford-directory-1887-8.pdf
And that itself is listed between Norcroft Brow and Longside Lane which leads me to suspect that they were here:
https://goo.gl/maps/CnQ4BdY45PUBDhYX9

or here

https://goo.gl/maps/rUxbMDfzEHvShNht8

The first one seems have been demolished by the university, if you move about it disappears. 

I have to thank you for posting the directory, as I have been fascinated by some of the trades listed. What a different world it was then.

As for the subject of the original query, whether it is a parts cleaner or oil dispenser, it is a beautiful artefact and well worth preserving.

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Many thanks for the replies! 

2 hours ago, super6 said:

I was under the impression that this was an oil dispenser, a parts washer is surely a much more modern item. See page 458 under oil tank manufacturers Post Office Bradford Directory 1887-8 (bradfordfhs.org.uk)

You may well be right about that, although it can also be used as a parts washer I think. There is some sort of valve that closes the sieve drain when you close the lid, that made me think it is a parts washer (to prevent the volatile part of the liquid from evaporating), however the tank is very clean on the inside and can be locked so that makes it more likely that it has been used to store fresh oil 

7 hours ago, Le Prof said:

Hi, @Cel

I couldn't find the patent, but it appears to be late (very late) Victorian. That is also the style of the Coat of Arms.

The company appears in The Automobile Pocket Book of 1900 as a maker of Safety Guards.

Information from Graces Guide.

Best Regards,

Adrian

I also tried looking up the patent but no success. So late Victorian would mean pre-WW1 if I am not mistaken?

4 hours ago, andypugh said:

Seems odd to get enthusiastic about a parts-washer, but that's lovely. 

Page 207 here has them listed at West End Mill
https://www.bradfordfhs.org.uk/_resources/tradedirectories/post-office-bradford-directory-1887-8.pdf
And that itself is listed between Norcroft Brow and Longside Lane which leads me to suspect that they were here:
https://goo.gl/maps/CnQ4BdY45PUBDhYX9

or here

https://goo.gl/maps/rUxbMDfzEHvShNht8

The first one seems have been demolished by the university, if you move about it disappears. 

Thanks, I went looking in the very same street as well, I find it fascinating that a lot of manufacturers were located in small workshops. Sadly the remains of these places are disappearing at a fast rate.

28 minutes ago, Ex-boy said:

I have to thank you for posting the directory, as I have been fascinated by some of the trades listed. What a different world it was then.

As for the subject of the original query, whether it is a parts cleaner or oil dispenser, it is a beautiful artefact and well worth preserving.

That is absolutely true, it was a different world. I found this tank hidden in a collection when checking out a stationary steam engine. This engine comes out of a tannery that was demolished in the mid 70s to make way for Brussels airport. I ended up buying both items, the price/weight ratio of the tank being definitely higher than for the engine😝

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1 hour ago, Ex-boy said:

I have to thank you for posting the directory, as I have been fascinated by some of the trades listed. What a different world it was then.

Indeed. I had a bit of a look myself, and was interested to see "Locksmiths - see Whitesmiths". Also 4 manufacturers of Shoddy but none of the related "Mungo". Though thinking about it Mungo might have been developed after 1886. 

<google> No, it existed by then: https://kirkleescousins.co.uk/shoddy-and-mungo/ 

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On 11/2/2022 at 9:35 PM, Cel said:

Not sure if this parts washer was used in WW1 but it could be possible? Anyone has ever seen one like it? Gustav Richter's patent of the Richter Manufacturing Co in Bradford.

Regards

Marcel

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I think you will find that this is a waste oil filter ,they were common place in engine rooms, garages  etc. in earlier times .

Wells were a popular make  in the UK, ,  enter in an online search and there are plenty of images of these . 

The 'pocket book' for 1899 is available as a reprint on demand item for not much money,  have a look on ABE Books site, good value for 300 plus pages and the information therein.

Richard Peskett.

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On 11/8/2022 at 8:14 PM, Richard Peskett said:

Wells were a popular make  in the UK, ,  enter in an online search and there are plenty of images of these . 

 

The search led me to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203930200361
Which also shows an "Oil Cabinet" which is a better match for the device in question as it has a similar arrangement of an outlet spigot inside the lid. 

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Many thanks for the replies! I would also say it is an oil cabinet for new oil, as there is no filter inside and it looks too clean for being used for waste oil. It can also be locked although I have no key. It will make a nice display and I can probably use it to store my SAE30 oil.

Regards

Marcel

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