antarmike Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) Mike, The census number puts it as an Armoured Personnel & Demolition version. There was a different contract for the Wireless Armoured Command type. But most of the the Demolition vehicles were reworked as minelayers, but didn't these also end up by being converted into Command Vehicles (the demolition vehicles having proved totally useless*, and the minelayers not much better**)? so by the time this photo is taken, I guess it would have become an ACV?? This convertion process happened early in the war, just after the fall of France when it was seen just how useless these vehicles actually were, the Maskeline?? deception was, I thought, later in the war. 1941-42 This vehicle does have one or two aerials in the roof....which I don't think is right for a demolition vehicle, or for a personnel Carrier. The Penthouse rolled up on the side, surely also makes this a Command Vehicle, whatever the the Census number may indicate? Is that 2 tons on the bridge plate? and why would that be?? * The demolition vehicle's drill proved unable to get through hard road surfaces found on the bridges it was trying to blow up ** and the minelayer, just dropping mines out of a chute, leaving them lying on the ground, without burying them, made minefields very, very easy to clear. Edited October 11, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 The Penthouse rolled up on the side, surely also makes this a Command Vehicle, whatever the the Census number may indicate? Is that 2 tons on the bridge plate? and why would that be?? Agreed Mike, just making the point about what its original role was. The 2 ton bridge plate is probably part of the deception of its disguise to look like a light covered truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Agreed Mike, just making the point about what its original role was. The 2 ton bridge plate is probably part of the deception of its disguise to look like a light covered truck. I thought to it must be part of the deception, but it seems strange to me that to be close enough to read the bridge plate, surely you would see the Painting Canvas radiator snout was phoney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris C8 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Two photos of RAF Matadors at Kankinare West Bengal India in 1947. original Photos from my collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris C8 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Any info on the 2 photos IDs. 1st photo i think is post war. 2nd photo is of a Matador used by the Germans, they put on John Bull and the Notek light. Original photos from my Collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyll Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Airfield construction Nicosia-Limasol En Route to El Aden Libya. Hello all. Could these vehicles be on their way to Limassol for the construction of Akrotiri? :idea: About the colour, the photo seems a bit faded. Could they not be finished in sand like many other vehicles used on Cyprus? Fyll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roof Over Britain Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Many years ago (20 at least) there was someone compiling a register of surviving Matadors. Does anyone know who it was and are they still collecting info for the register? Have attached a couple of pics of my latest project. - Just what I need, another project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 John Harrington has a list of possible survivors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roof Over Britain Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Thanks Mike, do you have any contact details for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shatters Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Matador on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AEC-MATADOR_W0QQitemZ320437379516QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Commercial_Trucks?hash=item4a9b8e61bc Same seller also selling a Militant Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 This was at East Kirkby a couple of years ago is it still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Yes it is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted angus Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Hello all. Could these vehicles be on their way to Limassol for the construction of Akrotiri? :idea: About the colour, the photo seems a bit faded. Could they not be finished in sand like many other vehicles used on Cyprus? Fyll Fyll that of course is a possiblity re the colour re the destination feasible but so is the original caption regards TED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptimber Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The other firm, famous for shortening matadors and converting them to timber tractors was A. K.Cooper. Their trademark is the removal of the original Turner winch and the fitting of a Unipower winch in it's place. Here are two of their products. Has anyone got any pics of the transfer box of one of these convertions or a douglas with a matador transfer box and rear mounted winch . How does the drive shaft drive to the rear instead of to the front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildside Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 There was a matador 6 wheel tanker in a motor museum near calne wiltshire i think i t is called the atwell wilson museum. Last time i saw the tanker she was looking in a bad way But that was 5 years ago is she still there i wonder? I also Know of 7 matadors that have been used on timber haulage in various states of disrepair they are dotted around somerset... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I stumbled across this museum about a year and a half ago. It was still there then: http://www.atwellwilson.org.uk/feature_aec_tanker.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I stumbled across this museum about a year and a half ago. It was still there then: http://www.atwellwilson.org.uk/feature_aec_tanker.htm It says that the AEC Tanker has an air cooled engine, dont think so ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted angus Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 They may mmean the pump engine in the back but there is a lot in that write up that doesn't gel ! tanker served with 617sqn Strange how every bit of kit that went through Scamptons gates was for 617 ?/ MT of that type was a Station assett ! TED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Batchelor Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Has anyone got any pics of the transfer box of one of these convertions or a douglas with a matador transfer box and rear mounted winch . How does the drive shaft drive to the rear instead of to the front? See Antarmikes ingenious solution, got a foden winch on the rear of his matador. There is a whole piece about it somewhere I think in matador gallery. Quite interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 See Antarmikes ingenious solution, got a foden winch on the rear of his matador. There is a whole piece about it somewhere I think in matador gallery. Quite interesting! Douglas simply turned the shaft around. However the rear bearing cap needs modifying to take an oil seal. you can't just swap housings as the rear one incorporates an gearbox mounting point. Some gearboxes had a double ended shaft, with a spline to drive the turner winch at the front, and a flange to take a hardy spicer coupling at the rear. They take some finding but they are out there. I have only ever seen two and I have both of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Scan from a poor print. I found the print inside an Antar Manual. I have absolutely no recollection as to who gave me it, or what they said about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Has anyone got any pics of the transfer box of one of these convertions or a douglas with a matador transfer box and rear mounted winch . How does the drive shaft drive to the rear instead of to the front? I'll get a photo of my douglas next time I am in the shed and there is enough light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) looks like the last time through the car wash was a bit rough so this time they are using the handwash! What do you think of that white star?? That one wasn't done with a stencil!! One for the Authenticity thread?? Edited January 3, 2010 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) http://foto.mail.ru/mail/mentossik/1638/2233.html check out the site hundreds of photos Edited January 2, 2010 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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