ArtistsRifles Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Those are interesting!! Guess first question is - are they steered by their tracks?? Sounds crazy but I was told the Activ Sno-cat didn't need a H license as it had a steering wheel - weird when you think it was a fully tracked vehicle but.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 first of they are based in lots of places (Basildon and Crawley being closer :whistle:) these ones are by a "joy stick" when i worked for a living we used one at renewal site and it had the sticks but they both "steered" by their tracks. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Sounds crazy but I was told the Activ Sno-cat didn't need a H license as it had a steering wheel - weird when you think it was a fully tracked vehicle but.... Neil, I thing someones told you wrong there, because some versions of the Carrier had steering wheels, that would not exempt them, it is the action of "steering by tracks" that constitutes the requirement of a H licence. A Combat Engineer Tractor has a steering wheel "of sorts", but still requires tracked licence. What the guy may have been refering to is the BV202 and 206 where it is the articulation of the two units that steers them and not the tracks, these do not require a tracked licence. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 http://www.licencecheck.co.uk/category_codes.php Tracked Vehicles H 21 the DVLA dont state if it must be steered by its tracks only track laying - i'll see if i can confirm that in the am :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 http://www.licencecheck.co.uk/category_codes.php Tracked Vehicles H 21 the DVLA dont state if it must be steered by its tracks only track laying - i'll see if i can confirm that in the am :-D Yes they do :-D Track laying vehicles steered by their tracks - category HBefore you can apply for a provisional licence for a category H you must have passed a test for a vehicle in category B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 :tongue: yes on http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/vehicleowners/specialistvehicles/specialistvehicleclassification.htm but not on the DVLA :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 :tongue: yes on http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/vehicleowners/specialistvehicles/specialistvehicleclassification.htm but not on the DVLA :whistle: Also from the people who test you :whistle: http://www.dsa.gov.uk/specialvehicles.asp Track laying vehicles steered by their tracks – category H Before you can apply for a provisional licence for a category H you must have passed a test for a vehicle in category B. You must be at least 21 years old to drive these vehicles. also... http://www.dsa.gov.uk/Category.asp?cat=134 What will the test include? All practical driving tests for specialist vehicles include an eyesight test and an emergency stop. If you fail the eyesight test your test will not continue. For further information on the requirements, please click on the link in the related content box. Category H driving tests require you to drive the vehicle backwards and to turn your vehicle around, using its tracks, to face in the opposite direction. Your examiner will explain how you should perform this manoeuvre. How will the test be carried out? This depends on the type of vehicle you use for the test. Categories F, G, H, K vehicles are usually only single seat, or with a passenger seat where the examiner would not be able to watch the driver. For these tests the examiner will give you instructions at the side of the road and watch how you drive as you go around left and right circuits. At the end of the category F,G, H or K practical drive you will be asked five questions on the Highway Code and other motoring matters. You will also be asked a sixth question comprising of six traffic signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 now this is open to interpretation Categories F, G, H, K vehicles are usually only single seat, or with a passenger seat where the examiner would not be able to watch the driver. For these tests the examiner will give you instructions at the side of the road and watch how you drive as you go around left and right circuits. doesn't state if the road is public or private...... oh and :tongue: :tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 now this is open to interpretation doesn't state if the road is public or private...... oh and :tongue: :tongue: To true, loads of options if it's off road.. like this lot, 25acres part of which is mine but I have use of the lot.. will be grass by the summer & we will be putting a private road in soon.. unfortunately our JCB has wheels.. Oh and :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: back at ya.. :tongue: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture002-2.jpg[/img] http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture005-2.jpg[/img] http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture010-1.jpg[/img] http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture012-1.jpg[/img] http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture013-1.jpg[/img] http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture014-2.jpg[/img] http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture016-2.jpg[/img] http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture017.jpg[/img] http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture018-1.jpg[/img] http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/safariswing/Picture019-2.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 nice rifle, what is it, PCP by the looks what make? used to own a few up till last year, loved a bit of rabbit pie :drool: so if you have a road put in -summer would be good for camping urm :whistle: oh and :tongue: but not to many mines getting cold :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 nice rifle, what is it, PCP by the looks what make? used to own a few up till last year, loved a bit of rabbit pie :drool: so if you have a road put in -summer would be good for camping urm :whistle: oh and :tongue: but not to many mines getting cold :-D Yep camping would be fine... & I've just remembered there's a plant hire firm at the end of the road :-D The rifle is a XS78 http://www.sportsmk.co.uk/erol.html not bad for the Boys first rifle.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 XS78 two bottles of co2? got mine the 79 big bottle on the front - blinding little weapon also had the AA200, logun Solo and a FX (same as the webley raider) but forced to sell them :cry: must find out about this "road" thing then up to you camping with beer tent, hire a machine and H on my plastic :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Neil, I thing someones told you wrong there, because some versions of the Carrier had steering wheels, that would not exempt them, it is the action of "steering by tracks" that constitutes the requirement of a H licence. A Combat Engineer Tractor has a steering wheel "of sorts", but still requires tracked licence. What the guy may have been refering to is the BV202 and 206 where it is the articulation of the two units that steers them and not the tracks, these do not require a tracked licence. Richard I strongly suspect you are right there Richard - dredging the memories I seem to recall the source of info was the infamous C4 series "Salvage Squad" when they restored one of the Activ Sno-Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowtracdave Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 What Salvage Squad did with that Snow Trac was way short of restoration & most of what they were talking was crap . Just because they have a steering wheel in the cabin doesn't exempt you from H class - it is still varying speed /braking of the tracks that changes the direction of the vehicle . If there were road wheels changing the course then you would be exempt . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 What Salvage Squad did with that Snow Trac was way short of restoration & most of what they were talking was crap . Just because they have a steering wheel in the cabin doesn't exempt you from H class - it is still varying speed /braking of the tracks that changes the direction of the vehicle . If there were road wheels changing the course then you would be exempt . I used to like that program - but since having become involved with Stalwarts and heard the true story of THAT little episode I'm now sceptical of the whole series.... :-( :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapier rob Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Jack (Dorset) = 1 richardrosser (Kent) ......... Mark (Kent) . Mark's mate (Kent) . Neil (Essex) > =8 John (Essex) . Lee (Essex) . Ian (Essex ........ Rob (nearly essex) So it looks like the HMVF (South-East Section) will have to get Jack to take his test in Essex or Kent :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Ok chaps. Looks like what needs to be done here is for you guys to do your test up in no mans land and us Dorset folk to do it down here. I will have it confirmed but I am told that the examiner can only do a max of 6 tests a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I used to like that program - but since having become involved with Stalwarts and heard the true story of THAT little episode I'm now sceptical of the whole series.... :-( :-( Have a read of this: http://www.tanks-alot.co.uk/salvagesquad.htm Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Thanks Chris - that was interesting reading. Funny how the interesting bits never made it into the program :-) Think I've said this before - the Stalwart job was a bit more "iffy" than that! A tight deadline as usual and a lot of things started going wrong - not the least being the attempted refit of the swim gear and seals. I think most here either know - or know of - Richard, the Stalwart Guru who runs the Yahoo list. He was the consultant for that program and it looked like they were running out of time so the producers asked to borrow his Stalwart as a stand in. The restoration job was a 622 like mine, Richards is a 623 or 624 withthe crane on the back. Not much of a give-away really....... Luckily the Army finished the job for them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Ok chaps. Looks like what needs to be done here is for you guys to do your test up in no mans land and us Dorset folk to do it down here. I will have it confirmed but I am told that the examiner can only do a max of 6 tests a day. Look's like you are going to be lonely then Jack, wot no friends down there then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Ok chaps. Looks like what needs to be done here is for you guys to do your test up in no mans land and us Dorset folk to do it down here. I will have it confirmed but I am told that the examiner can only do a max of 6 tests a day. Now come on Jack - where's the HMVF team spirit!!!! :-) There's only nine so far- thats four tests one day and five the next (or vice versa). So - hire two tracked digger thingies, get down on a Friday - all Friday to practice then tests on Saturday and Sunday. Easy-peasy!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Tests on Saturday and Sunday :? you've got to be joking! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowtracdave Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I used to like that program - but since having become involved with Stalwarts and heard the true story of THAT little episode I'm now sceptical of the whole series.... :-( :-( Well , for the Snow Trac episode they went to Alex McLarty who imported them in the first place and he got so pissed off with them that he refused to have anything more to do with the programme - you may recall that they had to replace the front drive sprockets (although they could just have turned them round and used the other side !)and torched a pair off a derelict ST laying in a Devon hedge . The fact that Alex - or his son who now runs the business - still has new ones on the shelf wasn't quite dramatic enough for them so they had the wreck craned into the hedge . Phil Chatfield - my fellow military ST tracker - supplied most of the info & photo's they used from his archive and for which he got absolutely no credit & without which the prog would have been a bit thin . The featured ST had a bit of a blow over to make it look pretty and made to run so they could do their run up the mountain . It still wasn't wired and nowhere near finished when they left it . Funnily enough though the guy who owned it said it was his pride and joy and had longed for the day he could use it and subsequently spent quite a long time tying to sell it on . P'raps he was jarred off too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 No wonder the series has been cancelled then............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul connor Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Im in on this as well!!! add meeeeeeee!!!!!! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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