Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 :rofl:well done mate,i like that one of Jack with the haggis!:rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Hahaha cheers Catweasle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryH57 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Great Pictures on what must be one of the longest threads on HMVF! Here is my LW at Trucks & Troops 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Great Pictures on what must be one of the longest threads on HMVF!Here is my LW at Trucks & Troops 2009. I checked it out mate good job,that RAF S1 behind you was a treat to.CW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 That takes me back to the days when i had a LtWt.:thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 88inch experimental military L/rover ,? or what ,any one know anything about it?CW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Interesting vehicle, fore runner to the 101 ,right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Interesting vehicle, fore runner to the 101 ,right ?No! the F.C. 110 2B was in production before the 101......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 88inch experimental military L/rover ,? or what ,any one know anything about it?CW. There were various fire tender f/c conversions made, was this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean101ryan Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 No. Alfred Miles built a couple of 88" FCs but they weren't developed further. That isn't one of them though, it looks like a homebrewed one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 No! the F.C. 110 2B was in production before the 101......... Isnt that so much more attractive than a 101,we had one with a v8, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 No. Alfred Miles built a couple of 88" FCs but they weren't developed further. That isn't one of them though, it looks like a homebrewed one. Its the first i have heard of them,any more imfo.cheers CW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Nice looking Vehicles , never saw any photos of either of them before . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptimber Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I took the top off my Land Rover and it didnt rain for three days !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoggyDriver Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 There is a Helicopter Support 110 TUM at Withams for sale for £5,500 +vat. I had a look around it and have to say it was in brand new condition. The cleanest one I have ever seen. Would be a good vehicle for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean101ryan Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Whole page about FCs inc a bit about the 88" http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/fc.html Another in swedish (I think?) http://www.lrforum.com/articles/00119/ One of the comics did an article a while back but not much is known about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Whole page about FCs inc a bit about the 88" http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/fc.htmlAnother in swedish (I think?) http://www.lrforum.com/articles/00119/ One of the comics did an article a while back but not much is known about them. Cheers for that CW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) No! the F.C. 110 2B was in production before the 101......... I had a 2B and the one C.W. has posted is in my opinion not a 2B, the panels above the wheels (in front of the doors) are not right, neither is the bonnet, (the 2B bonnet has a single curve, front to back , this one has a compound curve side to side) look closely, it isn't a 2B...The whhel arches are wrong, the bottom of the original door is cut into when modified into the 2B, this one isn't. May have the wrong end of the stick here, re-reading, I don't think anyone says it is a 2B... sorry Edited June 19, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) 88inch experimental military L/rover ,? or what ,any one know anything about it?CW. On this one the bottom of the door is staight, on the 2B the bulged wheel arch comes three inches into the door, that is cut to clear it....This ain't a 2B folks. The "b has bolt on chassis extensions that move the doors well forawrd. Compare where the doors are on the two vehicles in relation to the wheel. The doors are in different places.... The 2B is flat fronted, CW's picture has the rad panel set back some distance behind the front of the wings..... Edited June 19, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz76 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Mmm. This does look a bit like a good home-brewed conversion to me, but in the back of my mind I'm sure I saw a feature on 88" Prototype FC land rovers several years ago in a Land Rover Magazine. I think Steve Graham (Services) from the North East may have found one and took it home to restore??? Anybody in that area who can verify this? He is an avid collector of protos and early production stuff but I can't remember well enough...... Pretty sure there was more than one different version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisg Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Land Rover tinkered with the idea of a short wheelbase series II FC, with an 88 inch wheelbase. Due to their inherent instability, it never became a full production vehicle. Some examples DO exist, but most are home-built or specialist conversions of the 109/110 FCs. However, Alfred Miles was one specialist of note who DID build 88" FC machines, in pickup or cab/chassis layout. Indeed two of these became prototype Dennis fire engine conversions. However, very few 88" FCs of any type were built. Copied from http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/fc.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 As I said I used to own a 2B and my personal view is it is the worst Land-Rover ever built by the company, It was absolutely dreadful to drive, most of the steering and drivetrain components were overstressed, and failed with great regularity. It is a Land-Rover that they should never have made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz76 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 One they perhaps SHOULD have made? 1986: The Llama Project The Llama is another interesting prototype. Designed and developed in the mid 1980s as the successor to the 101 Forward Control, a number were built for evaluation by the Ministry of Defence. The Llama used the chassis and many parts from the relatively new 110, so was permanent 4x4, and was fitted with the 3.5 litre Rover V8. The 2.5 Litre Turbodiesel engine was also tested. The vehicle was fitted with a Santana LT 85 gearbox, and power steering. It had wider than standard axles, however. The Llama also had a very modern tilt-forward fibreglass cab (to reduce weight), instead of the aluminium box cab of the 101. Ten prototypes and two pre-production vehicles were built. However, the project was cancelled, (the MoD having chosen the Pinzgauer as the 101 fc's replacement) and only a few remain, with one on display at the Heritage Centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Daz I think you'll find the Reynolds Boughton RB340 was the vehicle chosen in place of the LLama, the Pinzgauer came along much later. Although it was common knowledge that the Llama was a far superior vehicle the decision was said to have been made on political grounds....whatever that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Daz I think you'll find the Reynolds Boughton RB340 was the vehicle chosen in place of the LLama, the Pinzgauer came along much later.Although it was common knowledge that the Llama was a far superior vehicle the decision was said to have been made on political grounds....whatever that means. My recollection was that Land Rover pulled out because they did not have a suitable diesel for the Llama, the 2.5 would have been a bit small I guess. Think that all the other competitors vehicles were diesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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