XS650 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) Never knew these trial wreckers made it to Aden- Edited October 29, 2021 by XS650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attleej Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I had one of these in Rwanda in 1995 when I was running BDS. It was donated to us by the French Army when they withdrew. I had a very interesting rear axle drive arrangement. It was multifuel with a huge engine. It was clearly designed for overseas operation. I am sure that it would have been good at crawling up a mountain with a heavy load I liked the soft top arrangement and the simple cab. I would love to see one again. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) . Edited April 19 by Nick Johns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanhardM3 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 The Defence Forces (Army) purchased 3 Berliet TBU 15CLD recovery trucks in 1972/1973. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PanhardM3 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Some photos would be nice to see. I maybe wrong but somebody did mention in the past that the British Army had purchased 2 and that Alvis were involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 This was due to collaboration between Alvis and Berliet as I recall, with the intention of Berliet producing or marketing Alvis Stalwarts and Alvis doing likewise with the trucks. There was mention of this in one of Bart Vanderveen's books from the distant past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltwtbarmy Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 12 hours ago, PanhardM3 said: Some photos would be nice to see. I maybe wrong but somebody did mention in the past that the British Army had purchased 2 and that Alvis were involved. Some photos are in the link provided, which is where the first picture came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltwtbarmy Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On flickr- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpsmit Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 8 hours ago, ltwtbarmy said: On flickr- do you think he will fit it up on that trailer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attleej Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I think that the trailer would be overloaded carrying a wheel and tyre assembly! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) So, apart from 43ER39 - what other British Army registration numbers do we have for the Berliet-Alvis TBU15 wreckers, or were there any other versions of the TBU also offered to MOD? During the December 1963 to around July 1965 agreement between Alvis and Berliet, two Stalwarts went to France, with some TBU coming to the UK. We know from these photos that 43ER39 was one, going to Aden. Note, Alvis was moved to BL in the summer of 1965, and BL blocked l'accord as its first act. One TBU is said to have gone to BAOR. One was at the 1964 Earls Court Commercial Motor Show of 1964, on Alvis' stand with STAL 33. I know that the French MOD passed STAL 34 to Musée des Blindés in 1975. No Berliet or Alvis wrecker appears in MERLIN, so we can presume that they were cast before January 1984. It's going to be down to photos or F.V.R.D.E. reports Edited April 9 by Mark Ellis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citroman Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) The D-sign is french and means Danger. You see them also on farm and forrestry tractors. And towing vehicles of course. Only put in vertical postion when towing. Edited April 9 by Citroman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Five Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Several years ago, I think, one of these was advertised on eBay. The vehicle was in Muirkirk, Ayrshire. Cannot recall if the advert gave any details of it's service life. I have no idea what happened to it but someone suggested that there might have been other ex-military vehicles at the same location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PanhardM3 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Just now, PanhardM3 said: Just now, PanhardM3 said: One of the three supplied to the Defence Forces in Ireland, 8819 ZO is in private hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 38 minutes ago, PanhardM3 said: One of the three supplied to the Defence Forces in Ireland, 8819 ZO is in private hands. Any idea of how long they were in service for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanhardM3 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 They were first registered here in December 1973, one went to the TMSI in Howth, the second is retained in the Curragh (Museum) and I got 8819 ZO in 2001 and currently in storage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 l have checked the FVRDE LEDGERS there are a few BERLIET trucks listed but no BERLIET TBU also my my list of 419b history cards in the ER SERIES there is no card for 43 ER 39 this list only goes up to june 2003 of those in the archives at BEVERLEY the RLC MUSEUM may have it since the museum at BEVERLEY closed but l doubt it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I was directed to Phil of PMtransportphotos, who assures me this photo belongs to Ken Porter. I wonder if this was taken at FVRDE, due to the Scammell next to it. 43 ER 38, to go with 43 ER 39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B series Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 43ER38 & 43ER39 were two Berliet TBU recovery vehicles supplied via Alvis for trials with REME. You can see the applied Alvis red triangle logo attached to 43ER39. They were part of a commercial agreement where Alvis would market Berliet trucks in some markets, and Berliet would market Alvis Stalwarts in markets which Berliet had a strong presence at the time, eg N Africa. 43ER38 was sold at the Ruddington 103rd sale Lot 1380 43ER39 was trialed in Aden 1964, returned to the UK and sold at the Ruddington 103rd sale Lot 1379 As far as I know there were only two Berliet TBU supplied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, B series said: 43ER38 & 43ER39 were two Berliet TBU recovery vehicles supplied via Alvis for trials with REME. You can see the applied Alvis red triangle logo attached to 43ER39. They were part of a commercial agreement where Alvis would market Berliet trucks in some markets, and Berliet would market Alvis Stalwarts in markets which Berliet had a strong presence at the time, eg N Africa. 43ER38 was sold at the Ruddington 103rd sale Lot 1380 43ER39 was trialed in Aden 1964, returned to the UK and sold at the Ruddington 103rd sale Lot 1379 As far as I know there were only two Berliet TBU supplied. When was the 103rd Ruddington sale, please? There doesn't appear to be any record of the two TBUs being tested by FVRDE, just troop trials. There was at least one Berliet GCB 8 KT 4x4 submitted to FVRDE for trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B series Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Ruddington 103rd sale was 14 to 16th October 1969. I can add nothing further about the trials or use of the vehicles when is service. As attleej mentioned in his post, these vehicle types do have a large and impressive engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Looks like a live ad for one in the UK. https://www.militarymart.co.uk/products/french-army-berliet-6x6-recovery-truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, radiomike7 said: Looks like a live ad for one in the UK. https://www.militarymart.co.uk/products/french-army-berliet-6x6-recovery-truck It's the right sort of year for manufacture, but suggests it was first registered in 1999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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