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Was it really that much fun being in the british army in germany in the 70s/80s ?


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I was with 5 Squadron Re at Corunna Bks Iserlohn during 1983.

We were on the missile site guard once and somehow I got HQ driver so back to base every day for rations, mail and other important duties such as a decent shower and on the way back the most important duty to be carried out. A stop at the local video shop every day and collect 40 tapes.

20 for the top site 20 for the lower.

I found I got the best comments when it was split 5 Porn, 5 Sports 5 Thriller and 5 Disney style.

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Guy's thank you I have really enjoyed reading this thread, I am a bit too young to remember these times as I had just started School! Has anyone written any books regarding this period and the exercises in Germany? more of peoples personal (and by the sounds of it rather amusing) experiences.

 

 

 

regards

 

Matt

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Guy's thank you I have really enjoyed reading this thread, I am a bit too young to remember these times as I had just started School! Has anyone written any books regarding this period and the exercises in Germany? more of peoples personal (and by the sounds of it rather amusing) experiences.

 

 

 

regards

 

Matt

 

At 58 I would retire tomorrow if I had the money (that's what a decade and a hlaf in the Armed Forces does for your bank balance). When I do retire, project number 1 will be to finish A Tracked Armoured Car, describing my seven years in 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars (now The Light Dragoons) from Basic Training at Catterick, through Omagh, Tidworth, Nicosia and finally five years in Paderborn.

 

So far the squadron has just stepped off the RAF Transport Command VC10 at RAF Akrotiri, bussed over the hills to Nicosia and been issued UNFICYP uniform. But I haven't had the will for a good few years now. "Me" time gets more and more precious, but I promise one day I'll get the urge and no doubt with time on my hands it will be finished in short order.

 

In the meantime I can recommend "Armoured Farmer" by my good friend Malcolm Cleverley, ex-3RTR who had a not dissimilar career, but on Chieftain, doing Tidworth and Paderborn in the same time-frames. I helped edit the final copy, though I'll point out I only had time to correct factual errors: my grammar and syntax pedantry would have had a field day given the time. Bloody Armoured Farmers.

 

If you do get a copy, take it with you to Tankfest. When you walk up the ramp on the way in to the right, (past my name under 15/19H and Light Dragoons on the Wall of Fame), you'll certainly find Malcy selling his original artwork: T-shirts, mugs, whatever. Offer him the password "Bacon Rolls" and watch him be confused because that's my gambit. See if he replies "Razor Blades" *. Then you can get your book autographed.

_____

 

* In Paderborn, 3RTR's close reconnaissance was provided by a big (8-car) troop of A Sqn 15/19H Scimitars. The Armoured Farmers from Devon, Dorset and Cornwall with their rolling brogue had the cheek to describe the Geordie Hussars as talking in Slidex!

 

So the Recce Troop used to make a habit of singing "Bacon rolls and razor blades, doo-dah," in broad Pitmatic to the tune of Campdown Races just to wind them.

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Guy's thank you I have really enjoyed reading this thread, I am a bit too young to remember these times as I had just started School! Has anyone written any books regarding this period and the exercises in Germany? more of peoples personal (and by the sounds of it rather amusing) experiences.

 

regards

 

Matt

 

Hi Matt

 

I would recommend "Try Not to Laugh Seargeant Major" by Roger McGowan and Jeremy Hands. It covers exactly this period and is very funny. It also takes a serious look at what NATO was facing.

 

Simon

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Heard of BRIXMIS? SOXMIS was the Soviet equivalent. After ww2 the Comanders in Chief and the Red Army Commander in Chiefs started a liasion/ obsever organisation where by the Allies roamed around East Germany 'Under Diplomatic Protection', that became BRIXMIS and the Soviet's could roam aronud West Germany. The idea was to 'Develop friendship and trust', the result was 40 odd years of quietlly caried on mayhem. I'd recommend BRIXMIS by Tony Gerharty, half the exploits if you put in fiction , you'd never belive it.

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Part of the fun on the exercises was trying to stop the SOXMIS personnel from seeing things they weren't supposed to see without actually intercepting them which- of course - was strictly forbidden......

It was amazing, though, how road closures would pop up just as the SOXMIS types thought they were closing in on things like mobile Elint units....

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Part of the fun on the exercises was trying to stop the SOXMIS personnel from seeing things they weren't supposed to see without actually intercepting them which- of course - was strictly forbidden......

It was amazing, though, how road closures would pop up just as the SOXMIS types thought they were closing in on things like mobile Elint units....

So you didn't have the fun the East German troops and Stazi had then? Ramming cars with tank transporters etc? :D

I'd be intrested to hear about methods you used to confuse SOXMIS, as opposed to thier methods.

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The answer to that was not a lot - they were kept tabs on for sure but I recall that if "stuff" happened to SOXMIS then poor old BRIXMIS copped a lot more on the other side. Besides we wanted them to see the legendary reliability of the L60 engine...........................:wow:

 

On the vehicle front an interesting vehicle to get hold of would be one of the RMP "White Mice" - Granadas (I seem to recall) which were both fast and full (and I mean full) of fuel. Their job was to tail the SOXMIS vehicles as soon as they left their compound (at Bunde - they were co-located with 2 ADTR RCT and I think they even came to mess functions).

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The answer to that was not a lot - they were kept tabs on for sure but I recall that if "stuff" happened to SOXMIS then poor old BRIXMIS copped a lot more on the other side. Besides we wanted them to see the legendary reliability of the L60 engine...........................:wow:

 

On the vehicle front an interesting vehicle to get hold of would be one of the RMP "White Mice" - Granadas (I seem to recall) which were both fast and full (and I mean full) of fuel. Their job was to tail the SOXMIS vehicles as soon as they left their compound (at Bunde - they were co-located with 2 ADTR RCT and I think they even came to mess functions).

 

There is a good thread about Brixmis / Soxmis on Arrse. Brotherton_Lad was with Brixmis other side of the IGB for years and tells it all.

 

I remember being told once that Brixmis supplied Soxmis with very nice 3L Opel Rekords that Soxmis took with gratitude ... over the IGB, to return shortly thereafter with performance that demonstrated that these Opel Rekords were now more akin to MiGs than cars.

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Guy's thank you I have really enjoyed reading this thread, I am a bit too young to remember these times as I had just started School! Has anyone written any books regarding this period and the exercises in Germany? more of peoples personal (and by the sounds of it rather amusing) experiences.

 

 

 

regards

 

Matt

 

Try getting hold of a book called "Armoured Farmers" about (I think) 3RTR

 

OOPs see someone got there before me.................a damn good read though, but not for the fainthearted, written by a soldier in soldiers langauge

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There was a BRIXMIS modified 4x4 Opel at the National Army Musuem at Chelsea for years. Now it has dissapeared, I'd love THAT as a toy! :cool2:

 

I remember working on one of these once. The driver would not leave us alone with the vehicle, it had some damage underneath, floor pan dented and steering rod bent I think. I remarked that he must have been off roading and all he would say was the roads were a bit rough.

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  • 3 years later...
It was really that fun being in any Military stationed in Germany during the 80s. I loved every minute of my tour in Germany.

 

 

 

I agree! Germany I consider my Second Home! :thumbsup: Would I do it all again?.......In a heart Beat! ( as long as I had my Higher rank, gained later in Service!) :-D

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