ploughman Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I have just asked a bus nut. Will let you know his answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) If the flange is that wide then it bolts onto the hub i am 99 % sure its to aid righting a double decker. As for construction is it 6 inch channel through the center what the shackle is attatched to i admit the flimsy strips arnt doing a lot Edited July 15, 2013 by cosrec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Is it any of the ones pictured on this page? http://www.trucksplanet.com/catalog/model.php?id=592 I been looking and looking not the tool but a AEC double decker bus recovery [video=youtube;ox-57JMI2eM] Edited July 17, 2013 by fesm_ndt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc1959 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It's identical to the one in the first column, fifth row (JGM 853F). They both belonged to Central Scotland busses then mine was owned by Dallas Recovery, was in the Beith Transport Museum and then a field. I'll post pictures when I get the thing home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Where's Grasshopper when you need his knowledge? Been off line (and on holiday) for a week with a failed laptop and failed work phone, quite enjoyed it really! Having worked on (and recovered) buses and owned ex-bus company Matadors, my thinking is that the device does attach to a rear axle end but would be used for dragging a righted vehicle sideways or backwards (ie one in a ditch or field). There are no suitable points to attach a winch or recovery cable to on the side or rear of a bus of the period as the bodywork would be in the way. The only real access for attachment would have been the front end; no good if the vehicle is nose-first into a field! For righting an overturned bus a beam of some considerable length would be required (as illustrated in the picture shown earlier in this thread). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellstar Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) Think this tow truck driver needs a little bit more training or a rear view mirror http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=015_1374998063 Edited July 29, 2013 by cellstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Think this tow truck driver needs a little bit more training or a rear view mirror http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=015_1374998063 he must of been having a really bad day :wow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Hi i have a very nice brochure about EKA recovery gear i think may be of interest How can i paste it in or put a link to it its in PDF format on my computer and not available on line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Hi i have a very nice brochure about EKA recovery gear i think may be of interest How can i paste it in or put a link to it its in PDF format on my computer and not available on line If it's too big to upload to the forum email it to me lee@hmvf.co.uk & I will upload it to the forum for you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 If it's too big to upload to the forum email it to me lee@hmvf.co.uk & I will upload it to the forum for you.. Hi tried that its to big to send via my email about 12 pages and i only have adobe reader which wont allow me to split it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) [ATTACH=CONFIG]80672[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]80673[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]80674[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]80675[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]80676[/ATTACH] found images lurking on my computer Edited August 16, 2013 by cosrec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Some strong language on this one, demonstrating the need to ensure the load platform is rigid and well secured.... Something went wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 If the speed had been lowered on the approach they might have not moved the trailer forward causing the ramps to move upwards. Nicked this off facebook the seven P's Prior planning and preparation prevents p1ss poor performance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughes Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Putting the handbrake on would have helped! J:eek: Sent from my ONE TOUCH 983 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 so easy to laugh now and so easy to forget, but arent these trucks auto, shouldnt it have stayed put without the handbrake on...wonder why it did actually move...can only think it must have been left in neutral and without the handbrake on, or the handbrake was not working, could also have come off the hitch, we dont see that bit, perhpas it was not properly attached to the truck...shame we dont get more,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I don't think that the truck approaching the ramp was under power hence the speed but the handbrake being off didn't help (or whatever). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utt61 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 ... AEC double decker bus recovery[video=youtube;ox-57JMI2eM] Great film, very evocative! Impressive traffic queue behind the recovery vehicle and casualty when the journey home started, also I have to wonder also why the banksman towards the end is wearing gumboots and a raincoat on a sunny day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) The truck and trailer in post 862 is a very common set up over here in North America. We have run several versions like this. The truck towing the trailer is quite likely an automatic. In the driving culture over here it is often noticed that drivers do not engage what most Europeans would call the parking brake but is referred to over here as the emergency brake. It is a foot operated pedal affair and invariably is not used as drivers rely on the transmission to hold the vehicle, it does not lock the vehicle right up. This is what I would suggest happened and then the vehicle had some movement. The truck attempting to load to the trailer was likely not going to make it because of the break over angle of the trailer deck versus the angle possible with the running boards fitted to the truck. This may also explain why they have the ramps on higher ground, trying to raise the back end. Add to that these trailers have a spring mounted on the pivot bar for the ramps to help you lift the ramps to stow them which is why they popped up under the truck body so easily after the front wheels go onto the trailer I have seen cars grounded out on these types of trailers because of the break over angle. I think they were doomed from the start. My 2 cents worth R Edited August 30, 2013 by robin craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'm pretty certain that the vehicle being loaded was not a runner. This is why they positioned it up the ramp in order to roll it down onto the trailer - hence the speed which was the main cause of the disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 this is eaxctly why you dont tether down a vehicle when winching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Check this out another vehicle aimed at military buyers using standard civilian equipment with a few mods. Makes a very versatile piece of recovery gear. Be a long time before i can afford one from the auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Check this out another vehicle aimed at military buyers using standard civilian equipment with a few mods. Makes a very versatile piece of recovery gear. Be a long time before i can afford one from the auctions. Gutted , just too long for my back garden !:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Check this out another vehicle aimed at military buyers using standard civilian equipment with a few mods. Makes a very versatile piece of recovery gear. Be a long time before i can afford one from the auctions. Small wonder that first recovered MV went over the edge - wouldn't like to drive that round bends with such a short wheelbase.:D:D:blush: [ATTACH=CONFIG]81929[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Oops. http://novinenovosadske.rs/hrvatskoj-vojsci-tenk-ispao-u-jarak-foto/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Surprised me these are up for sale so Quick Type this in on E Bay MAN/ ERF SX 32.440 8x8 HEAVY RECOVERY UNIT # CHOICE OF 4# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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