Ex-boy Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Slight error on spelling Wally, it’s Fremington in Devon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 YOU are correct the information is hand written and bad to make out should know better MEMO to self put your reading glasses on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-boy Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 The only reason I knew was that during my service days I had a posting order to join LAD REME 18 Sqn RCT there (on DUKWs). This was early 1972 but before the posting date they were sent to NI and amalgamated with 26 Sqn, so instead of DUKWs I ended up on macralon covered Bedfords and Rovers in Lisburn. Just my luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, wally dugan said: You may use the photographs of the saladin trials on the subject of prototypes of the STALWART PV1 was given the number ALV 2 and returned to alvis on the 24/4/61 PV 2 was returned on the 8/10/62 this is 2720 RW PV3 on the 8/4/62 PV 9 had the number 504 FUW and was used for fording trials FREMINGTON NORTH DEVON on the 27/10/67 Many thanks, @wally dugan Are you sure it's not Instow, where the Royal Marines have their vehicle testing location - where Camion was trialled? And is the year of 27/10/67 correct for PV9, when so many Mk 2s had been built by then. Or, was there a different engine or something? PV3 is said to have been a diesel or RR multi-fuel engine and Alison automatic transmission. I'll take absolutely anything you have on the Saladin chassis development, PV1 and subsequent Stalwart developments. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 it was sent to the REME FORDING TRIALS UNIT BASED AT FREMINGTON also the second phase of stalwarts were given the numbers 33 56 63 66 AND so on without a prefix letter later ones numbers from the SP series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, wally dugan said: it was sent to the REME FORDING TRIALS UNIT BASED AT FREMINGTON also the second phase of stalwarts were given the numbers 33 56 63 66 AND so on without a prefix letter later ones numbers from the SP series Thanks. Corrected that. Would love to see a registry of Chassis numbers against the allocated numbers and SP registrations. But guess that doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-boy Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 If anyone wishes to know (a little) more about the army in Fremington, just Google Fremington Army Camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 it's been awhile but things keep coming this is one of them in the mid sixties the mod were looking in to multi - fuelled soft skins they asked three manufacturers to put forward one and half ton four wheel drive trucks to be trialed BMC put forward two types with different body styles BEDFORD supplied one and COMMER also one l have the results of the BMC and BEDFORD vehicles but not a the moment the one supplied by COMMER. also in among the other items a VHS video of ANTAR MK 3's been worked on in GERMANY by members of the MSO sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 Sorry for the print on the scanned picture this is done to try and stop some one putting it on another forum as he has done it the past if he continues l will stop posting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just a few more included in the new box but not shown are a load of the RASC JOURNAL's and a number of key cards no2 in the XB AND XJ Series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 21 hours ago, wally dugan said: Sorry for the print on the scanned picture this is done to try and stop some one putting it on another forum as he has done it the past if he continues l will stop posting I'm all for watermarking things, so that they can be freely shared - and not be sold on eBay. I now have a copy of Master PDF editor, which makes it so easy to mark the whole document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Sorry to disagree, but I do. I'm not entirely sure that any of us, as individuals have the right to 'watermark' or claim copyright over documents which have been released into the public domain by the Ministry of Defence given that they have already been paid for by the tax-payer and, if any copyright remains it belongs to the Crown. This is what the Government has to say on the matter: Copyright protects your work and stops others from using it without your permission. You get copyright protection automatically - you don’t have to apply or pay a fee. There isn’t a register of copyright works in the UK. You automatically get copyright protection when you create: original literary, dramatic, musical and artistic work, including illustration and photography original non-literary written work, such as software, web content and databases sound and music recordings film and television recordings broadcasts the layout of published editions of written, dramatic and musical works You can mark your work with the copyright symbol (©), your name and the year of creation. Whether you mark the work or not doesn’t affect the level of protection you have. I think the key words are, 'your work', 'create' and 'original'. As material released from HMG is neither your work, nor created by you nor original to you, then, frankly, you do not own the copyright and pretending otherwise with stamps or watermarks is wrong. And, anyway, what is the big issue with something which furthers our hobby being disseminated more widely? As individuals, we'll all of us here be dead within the next 30 odd years, but the hobby will remain for those who come after us and we'll all look pretty silly if material has been lost because an individual decided that something he'd come across in the course of his career, or while pursuing a hobby was lost for all time because he sat on it afraid that someone might post it elsewhere without acknowledging him. That's ridiculous. 10 68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) @10FM68 Putting a watermark on something doesn't mean copyright - it just stops people selling documents that are freely available. All the documents that I've uploaded have all been declassified by MOD. They clearly state on them that they are free to download, and advertise the group. Some people will sell absolutely anything - and I'm not a big fan of that when documents can help to keep old vehicles out of the scrap yard. One person is charging for searches on and selling extracts of Merlin, which is freely downloadable off the internet if you know what to look for. This sort of damage below is caused by people not being able to get hold of the right documents, or not looking for them because they think they aren't available. And of course of not having a clue of what they're doing without the documents. Edited October 26, 2022 by Mark Ellis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 10 FM 68 while l see your point l have spent half my life collecting these things and some of what l have saved has been of value to others in getting the history of their vehicles and getting them registered may be you if you have used the RLC MUSEUM VEHICLE RECORDS Any one that has asked for information that l hold has been given it at no cost to them and freely. But l now know what to do with my collection Edited October 26, 2022 by wally dugan 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Knowing WD's past history , in particular with the Beverley Museum {as was). he being presently the only person with access to this type of aged document - then if it were me , then I would probably do likewise - be a 'spoiler'. For a person to pass off as a legit. Ebay sale or similar action , whilst not illegal it is morally wrong. It's not exactly plagiarism , BUT - I would treat it as such and take umbrage.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 You can't claim Copyright on a MOD document but there's nothing wrong with a watermark saying where it came from. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 wally do you have a copy of the berliet one. I have two of them and cannot find anything about them in English... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 PAUL I know that l did see some thing on BERLIET but cannot recall what or which model/models as you know BERLIET made a number of types for the military but will look for you and let you know regards wally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 PAUL I know that l did see some thing on BERLIET but cannot recall what or which model/models as you know BERLIET made a number of types for the military but will look for you and let you know regards wally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 PAUL its on the first page of the thread report FT/B 989 ON the three ton 4x4 8KT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attleej Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Paul, If you had a manual (or just a few pages) in French, I could probably make sense of it. Happy to swing by to Alton. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 If l understand PAULS questions he has the vehicles but not any information either in French or English manuals or other wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ellis Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 20 hours ago, paulob1 said: wally do you have a copy of the berliet one. I have two of them and cannot find anything about them in English... If you have the French document, what happens if you scan it as a File type PDF (rather than an Image type jpeg PDF), open it in Chrome and ask Chrome to translate it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 these are from the ROTINOFF ATLANTIC TRIAL and just one of the reasons it was rejected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 The wear reminds me of AUSTIN CHAMP crown wheel and pinions worn down to a razor edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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