ajmac Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 (edited) There have been a good number of German vehicles recovered since the early 90's but this must be one of the most interesting due to winter tracks and paint scheme. I had seen stills of this Eastern Stug III recovery before but never the full version, it had been posted on MLU. When the tracks start turning at around 7min it nearly brought a tear to my eye. Drove into a bog in the harsh Russian winter then saw the light of day 70 years later just like all the history over the past 70 years never happened. Something went wrong... Edited December 22, 2010 by ajmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Wow ! That is fantastic ! What a find ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter4456 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Incredible footage! You'd never believe it was true if you hadn't seen it with your own eyes!! I wonder what happened to the Stug after recovery Perhaps there may be a Tiger or two lurking in Russian bogs after all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 That's amazingly well preserved. If it hadn't been inverted for all that time you could almost imagine taking along a set of batteries just to see what would happen .... Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Incredible footage! You'd never believe it was true if you hadn't seen it with your own eyes!! I wonder what happened to the Stug after recovery Perhaps there may be a Tiger or two lurking in Russian bogs after all!! It's currently displayed at Saratov http://fotovalkirumodelism.com/page.php?page=153 (And the rest of that website's worth a browse!) There's been quite a few Tiger bits recovered over the years, several intact smaller tanks fished from rivers & bogs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter4456 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Didn't they do exactly that to a T34 recovered from a bog? I'm told new batteries, fluid changes and 3 small mechanical repairs and they drove it away!! Well, it's a good story anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Unfortunately, since being recovered a lot of parts reportedly have been removed to be 'restored' and seem to have vanished. The vehicle itself has been stored outside and has since deteriorated quite a bit. It really is a shame, it was a time capsule and should have been left as found in a proper storage area. http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267988&highlight=stug+recovered The will is there, but the knowledge and funding can't keep up it seems... :embarrassed: That said, I am sure a lot of treasures are waiting to be discovered. Greetz David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Near enough. http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2006/09/17/russian-tank-recovered-from-the-lake-after-50-years-been-there/ (OT34 version) And another http://reibert.info/gallery/v/Archeology/Technics/T-34/Rise/ And another KV1 from the river Neva http://www.vincelewis.net/kv1.html Plus a BT5 http://www.nortfort.ru/np/foto_tbt1_e.html And a PzIII came from a bog near Smolensk http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CB4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthe.shadock.free.fr%2FSurviving_Panzer_III.pdf&ei=300STfafJYyEhQfJ7Im3Dg&usg=AFQjCNEQIYhJoXt5Rc776nKPqv-fG-Rfxg Scroll down to the bottom of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 that's my kind of thread!! keep em coming guys cheers eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
private mw Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 i want too find one , could i keep it and would i be able to pull it out with my little 4x4 , :shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver99 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 There are loads of vehicles at the bottom of Lake Garda! I have an inklin of a sherman in the uk which is in a pond. As well as a traction engine in a bog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 i want too find one , could i keep it and would i be able to pull it out with my little 4x4 , :shocked: Err....No and are you a :nut: :rofl::rofl::rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sad how these unique finds are treated, nevermind:-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Rimmer Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I agree,whether it's vehicles or aircraft which have lain undisturbed where they came to rest it seems such a shame that in the rush to recover them all too often details are lost before they can be properly recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I agree,whether it's vehicles or aircraft which have lain undisturbed where they came to rest it seems such a shame that in the rush to recover them all too often details are lost before they can be properly recorded. Speaking of which, when is the P38 coming out Matt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Rimmer Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Speaking of which, when is the P38 coming out Matt? Hi Adrian, There are several factors which effect when it will happen,but mainly it depends on finding a suitable "home" for it,which in the UK really boils down to either the IWM or RAFM,both of whom have expressed an interest but the problems of space and funding have to be overcome. Fortunately it has remained covered since 2007 so is hopefully safe enough until the time is right!. Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thanks Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 There are loads of vehicles at the bottom of Lake Garda! I have an inklin of a sherman in the uk which is in a pond. As well as a traction engine in a bog. Come on!!!! Spill the beans.............I have the weekend free :coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
private mw Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 :coffee:yes and i have some rope and a hose pipe and choccie biscuits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 if it's shermans you want, how about a trip to france. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmECb58hFkI&feature=related there's tons of gear on those french and belgian ranges but you'll never get anything without the right contacts :cool2: eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver99 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Eddy, isn't that range at Bivelle, now abandoned. It's part of the sand dunes. I have seen other pics of the half tracks and amx's with what appear to be people having a constitutional. Although a holiday in beautiful brittany with spanner and bbq may be an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver99 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Hi Adrian, There are several factors which effect when it will happen,but mainly it depends on finding a suitable "home" for it,which in the UK really boils down to either the IWM or RAFM,both of whom have expressed an interest but the problems of space and funding have to be overcome. Fortunately it has remained covered since 2007 so is hopefully safe enough until the time is right!. Matt. Don't wait too long. As much as i love both museums you mention, getting funding out of them for a dedicated space and restoration may be a long time in coming. Duxford are shedding staff and storage. Will the P38 then be competing for funds with the DO 17 which is planned to be raised from Goodwin Sands, plus the other projects which invariably are in the background. With reference to the P38, now it is known about, and as an archaeologist, i would recover and place in a tank and flush with solution to reduce salts. Funding can then be sought, without the worry of what is happening to the P38 in the oggin. Perhaps a dedicated museum may be opened on a minor basis for the aircraft itself. Joint military and archy conservation, project. May get funding from arts and humanities grants and lotto. Something similar to R for Robert Wellington at Brooklands? Or shall members of HMVF start a commercial military archaeology branch, I'll be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Rimmer Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Thanks for the suggestions. I will PM you and update the thread in the archaeology section as we are going rather OT!. We have covered a lot of ground on the project since 2007 and a lot of work has been done "behind the scenes". Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 if you google earth bivelle there are a few targets of interest. eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammell4199 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 i can't get bivelle to come up. its just comes up with 4 different "ville"s bloody computers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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