Lord Burley Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The other half works in a kids day center.And over the last week she,with the help of a couple of others has created a rememberance wall. Basically its a wall with information pictures and words in basic form to inform the kids on the significance of rememberance day and what it means.She has had lots of intrest from the kids.And they have shown there enthusiasm with pictures that they have drawn and placed on the wall. Imagine my other halfs dismay,when she asked the owner today if we were going to hold a minutes silence tomorrow morning.To be greeted with"No!.We are running a business.We are not in the business of poppys and silence".This is from someone who happens to be the first cousin of X-factors Simon Cowell.Slightly contradicts his efforts on releasing a single for "Help the hero,s campaign".What a twat!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Like I said elsewhere here today - the culture we live in has no concept of personal responsibility any more, thus feel no obligation to give a minute or two of their time each year to give thanks to those who gave a damned sight more on their behalfs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodge Deep Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Yeah there's a lot of it about sadly... Collected at a well known supermarket saturday before last... after applying in writing, jumping through hoops... putting up with a snotty customer service manager who needed her arse kicking till her nose bled & a disssinterested manager & (who wouldn't even come downstairs to talk to me) only to go back midweek to ask if we could collect again only to be ginven a flat "no!" I can think of MORE REASONS why they won't be getting any more of my 'kin money! So went across to a discount supermarket (German company incidentally) who said yeah no problem and couldn't have been more helpful!!!! People eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowtracdave Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Don't suppose you'd care to name the supermarket Bodge ? I'd like to know so I can avoid accidentally giving them any of my cash . D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Been in two Big supermarkets in the last week or so, none of them had poppies on sale, quite unbelievable, are they so PC that they wont have them on sale incase they offend somebody, so its easier not to have them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 It sems to be he who screams loudest, so next year if anyone says no, let bombard head office with e mails. they are offending us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Hardyferret Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 If any one is interested in becoming involved collecting for Poppy Day next year and putting this shamfull situation to rights use this link http://www.poppy.org.uk/index.php/poppy-people-wanted.html and get signed up now. :-D We have taken the tins and trays of poppys every where we go - not just standing / parking outside PC World and the like. But be ready to explain just what it is all about as the ignorance about the poppy appeal is quite staggering.:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Don't suppose you'd care to name the supermarket Bodge ? I'd like to know so I can avoid accidentally giving them any of my cash .D Come on Bodge let us know the name of this shameful supermarket so we can all avoid it. I'm sure just the first letter of the name would be enough assuming it's one of the big chains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodge Deep Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 there's a clue in my post ... but as yet I don't want to do anything without the say so of the RBL guy who I'll speak to later on today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 there's a clue in my post ... but as yet I don't want to do anything without the say so of the RBL guy who I'll speak to later on today... Think Bodge has nailed it in his post, yes they are big companies but the rules states no flaming - PM Bodge and I reckon he will tell you! Cheers. Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I mentioned this story to my Mum and she told me our local branch of the unmentionable store had a large table inside with several people collecting so I think this may have been a problem with that particular shops personnel ! Is it our education system is failing or that people have not attended our schools for one reason or another ? It is sad either way ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Probably accurate. Unpleasant though it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 just been to my local cenotaph, there was adout 12 primary school children there, so some of the meaning is being passed on Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 This is Gordon Brown's podcast...I think it is impressive. It was 90 years ago today that the guns of the Western front fell silent, on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month. This morning I will welcome to Downing Street our last world war one veterans and their families. Today we are blessed that these survivors remain with us, our living link with momentous events that happened before our time. In honouring them we can give our thanks for the sacrifices made by so many. But for those who did not return from the battlefields, those who “gave their tomorrow for our today”, we will take time to remember and to grieve at war memorials across our land. The presence of moving memorials in thousands of council chambers, assembly halls and market squares stands as an eternal testament to the fact that no British city, no British town, no British village went untouched by the horror, no family escaped without grief, each school had its representatives among the fallen. The memorials remind us of the sheer scale of the sacrifice and the breadth of the courage to be found in that generation of Britons. But so too do they remind us of something even deeper – that while each of us is unique we are not sufficient unto ourselves but citizens, members of a community with shared interests, mutual needs and linked destines. We owe obligations to others because they are part of what we are. I will always remember the inscription on the Scottish memorial to the war dead. It says “the whole earth is the tomb of heroes and their story is not only graven in stone over their clay but abides everywhere without visible symbol - woven into the stuff of other men’s lives.” And so today we remember all that is woven into the stuff of our lives. We remember the heroism of those who served in Korea, Northern Ireland, the Falklands, the gulf and the Balkans, and the brave men and women who today wear the British uniform in Afghanistan and Iraq. It was hoped that the Great War would be the war to end all wars but sadly that was not the case. Sacrifices continue to be made by those who serve in our armed forces today and, whilst the numbers involved are thankfully not on the scale of world war one, the individual cost can remains the same. My thoughts are very much with all the men and women of our armed forces, serving with such distinction at home and overseas, and my thoughts are also with their families. So let us today pay tribute and give thanks to all who wear the British uniform, all who carry our flag and all who risk or have given their lives that our country can remain strong and free. Our gratitude is unbounded your heroism unsurpassed. You are in our thoughts today and always. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo1969 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I started taking my niece to MV shows when she was about 6, told her all about the wars, the soldiers and the hardships they suffered for future generations. She's 15 now and if someone asked her about poppy day she could tell them exactly what it means. You can't blame the kids for not knowing if they are not told! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Absolutely right. Education is what matters. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Unfortunatley if the National Curriculm don't have it teaches don't say it. i know a lot of our younger brigade can embarrass their teachers when it comes to military history. Can you imagine trying to tell someone like Harry, Robby or Raglham about the Great War? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Unfortunatley if the National Curriculm don't have it teaches don't say it. i know a lot of our younger brigade can embarrass their teachers when it comes to military history. Can you imagine trying to tell someone like Harry, Robby or Raglham about the Great War? Well if the Curriculum doesn't we pick up some of the slack teaching as we do with our hobby/MV's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Unfortunatley if the National Curriculm don't have it teaches don't say it. i know a lot of our younger brigade can embarrass their teachers when it comes to military history. Can you imagine trying to tell someone like Harry, Robby or Raglham about the Great War? When my eldest Daughter was doing WW1 at school, about 9 years ago, I was helping her with facts. They studied the 1916 Somme battle, and she asked about the Pals battalions - Teacher had never heard of the Pals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 It's down to the QCA, Qualifications Accreditation Council. If they don't approve the course, no money. I'm involved in NVQ's but am sick of the whole thing as the colleges, schools etc are only intrested in chasing the money trail. We are also 'specialist's' in our feilds. as an aside on Flog It yeterday, an 'Expert' valuing post cards said 'Oh look' HMS Hood, that was sunk in World War one'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vets Dottir Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 LOTS of folks in Canada have been upset and are talking about this story below ... a big name restaurant banned staff from wearing Poppies, claiming "safety precaution" http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/11/10/7360926-sun.html When public safety is an issue, then poppies can be adapted or something to stay scure on clothing, and that would solve any safety concerns. I know I kept losing poppies, and I now run the pin part through my clothing and back through the outer edge of the poppy and that keeps it on, making it very hard to knock it off There are other ways to get around them being pulled off. When I first read this post I had a flash-thought about how people of all ages get hooked by music sounds and listen ... maybe some Remembrance songs/music street busking would be a good way to draw attention to the Day and meanings of it ... just a wee thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungaman Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 +good one bodge!!nice code!! Yet this store has many stars and singers on its payroll ! Let it shine ? Yeah up their a**e !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuno Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Had to read several of the posts in this thread until I realized that the problem with the "forbidden poppies" appeared in the home countries of the people who shall be remembered - not in one of the enemy's countries. I am not very familiar with poppies but I thought, they idea is to make people thinking about war - respectively what it means to go to war and die there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vets Dottir Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Hi Kuno2, Here is a Canadian Legion page about the history of the poppy if you'd like to check it out http://www.legion.ca/Poppy/campaign_e.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Cosidering that the idea of poppies as a remeberance started in the US, then spread to Canada before being picked up in UK, the descion does seem bizzare. But hey, health & saftey!!! Don't eat anything, don't drink anything and above all don't breathe the air. Are you also being buried in Political corectness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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