croc Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 As for tyres overheating, I suspect you would get warmer than the tyres walking next to it at 5 mph:sweat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Well the Danes allso had a habit with overloading there Rogers trailers pic from http://www.dragonforening.dk/Foto.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Graves Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Is this overloading or not?? A 69 ton King Tiger on a 45 ton Rogers trailer. Two very rare photos of an American Diamond T taken in Belgium 1944. One of the photo's shows the Tiger loaded on the Rogers trailer having blown eight tyres.The other shows the tank and 'T' at the railhead. Please note the angle of the two rear axles of the trailer. The tank was later taken to a museum in Germany. Enjoy!!! Tony Graves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Graves Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Sorry, here's the 2nd photo - I'm not very good at this !! Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Tony any chance you posting a pic up of your old beast?.I remember it back in the late 80,s.When you and your other half used to take it to shows.You used to keep it at Westerham if i am correct?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Graves Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I have been searching through my photo archive and came across this Box Brownie photo given to me many years ago showing yet another case of overloading, this time British culprits. I think the tank is the German Elephant which came in at 66 tons and is loaded on a 40 ton crane trailer. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 And I though a Conqueror on an FV3601 was bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Great overload pics guys! Can anyone give us the max. load rating on the Rogers tyres? Tony - I'll try to get a current pic of your old green T (now with Tom) and post soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Is this overloading or not?? A 69 ton King Tiger on a 45 ton Rogers trailer. Two very rare photos of an American Diamond T taken in Belgium 1944. One of the photo's shows the Tiger loaded on the Rogers trailer having blown eight tyres.The other shows the tank and 'T' at the railhead. Please note the angle of the two rear axles of the trailer. The tank was later taken to a museum in Germany. Enjoy!!! Tony Graves I know this is the Diamond T gallery, but no mention for the vehicle alongside. At first glance I thought it may be overtaking the slow moving diamond T, :yay: But a second look noticed the bonnet is up on the Ward La France. :noyay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Graves Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Tony any chance you posting a pic up of your old beast?.I remember it back in the late 80,s.When you and your other half used to take it to shows.You used to keep it at Westerham if i am correct?. Sorry photos are late. 1.Photo of my first Diamond, which I purchased in 1978 and sold with my Rogers Trailer to Denis Roberts in 1985, pictured at Pegasus Bridge in Normandy in 1982 with Dale Johnson who was Chairman of IMPS at the time. I bought this Diamond from Joe Sullivans yard at Portsmouth. The collection of Diamond 'T's and other famous trucks in the yard, looking back, was amazing. 2. Yet another of my DT's at Longues village in Normandy 1994. 3. The same 'T' at Beltring with another 'T' of mine, a wrecker, in the background. 4. A shot of two of my 'T's at my yard in Brasted in Kent. All the best, Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Graves Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Great overload pics guys! Can anyone give us the max. load rating on the Rogers tyres? Tony - I'll try to get a current pic of your old green T (now with Tom) and post soon. I do not know about loadings per tyre on the 45 ton Rogers trailer but they ran on 8.25 x 15 14 ply tyres but were classed as 12 double tyred wheels. Perhaps they were rated at 4tons per double wheel. Didn't stop peeople overloading though!! Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 For those Diamond T drivers who need an example of their DT working out in the snow hows this , modern truck meets sled dog team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Tony, remember this day at Mike Stallwoods farm when you collected the Rogers trailer and even earlier with the colour shot at Northfleet when we took a run up the 25 Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 les freathy : In your upper photo in post 213 is it possible to maneuver a trailer on a dollie backward in such a narrow area or would you disconnect and reverse the truck and push with the front hitch ? Very nice photo's by the way !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Sorry photos are late. 1.Photo of my first Diamond, which I purchased in 1978 and sold with my Rogers Trailer to Denis Roberts in 1985, pictured at Pegasus Bridge in Normandy in 1982 with Dale Johnson who was Chairman of IMPS at the time. I bought this Diamond from Joe Sullivans yard at Portsmouth. The collection of Diamond 'T's and other famous trucks in the yard, looking back, was amazing. 2. Yet another of my DT's at Longues village in Normandy 1994. 3. The same 'T' at Beltring with another 'T' of mine, a wrecker, in the background. 4. A shot of two of my 'T's at my yard in Brasted in Kent. All the best, Tony The Mr T is the one i remember.Where is that now?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Graves Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 To NOS - Thought this might be of interest. Page 17 post no.167 posted by Antar Mike shows 4 photos of a simulated recovery. The 980 and the 969 were owned by The Chaseside Company in Hertford. The recovery gear in the 980 was designed by George Jackson formally of Chaseside Engineering and later MD of Dial Holmes Recovery Equipment. I remember seeing this Diamond in Hertford and having a look around close on forty years ago. I was working in Hertford and just out of my apprentiship. The site of Chaseside Engineering was still there in the station yard and was littered with all sorts of buckets and frames from the cable era. The colour of the 980 was black and red with the name Chaseside on the ballast box. Regards Tony G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 From Italy 1944 note the very thick circle surrounding the star both on the door and the hood . Us Army Engineers / US Army Engineers rebuilding bridges demolished by retreating Germans during WWII. Location: Italy Date taken: 1944 Photographer: Margaret Bourke-White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Thanks Tony - I had not noticed the Chaseside sign-writing till I just blew the pic up. I had no idea about the Chaseside / Dial Holmes conection. :thumbsup: Interesting how the history of many of these engineering companies is intertwined by engineers/designers moving from company to company - an era of great innovation! For example Chaseside/Muirhill/Northrop/ DJB yielding the first big 4 wheel drive tractors and artic dumptrucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) Pic of the same Diamond t from a different angle , note the Chevy 1 1/2 ton in the back ground seems to have an added storage basket above the cab and the same thick ring marking on its door. Us Army Engineers US Army Engineers rebuilding bridges demolished by retreating Germans during WWII. Location: Italy Date taken: 1944 Photographer: Margaret Bourke-White Edited March 8, 2009 by abn deuce spelling correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Graves Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 N.O.S Here is another photo I have of the Chaseside Diamond T on a simulated recovery. You can see the recovery arrangement at the rear of the truck, the cable through the rear winch rollers and over the pulley. The problem with this was it tended to bend the winch rollers. I believe Mr Jackson converted a few 980 - 981's, one of which was owned by Cadzow's of Scotland Heavy Haulage. This is the same vehicle which appeared in military trim at the 2008 Dorset Steam Fair. ** Does anyone have or know where I can get a DT 980 closed cab scuttle rubber for my new project?** Regards Tony G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 N.O.S ** Does anyone have or know where I can get a DT 980 closed cab scuttle rubber for my new project?** Regards Tony G Tony, you might want to speak to Jim Clark. I tried to get some original pattern rubber for mine but he has sourced a good alternative. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I went to look at this diamond T with a view to buying it. It was a real heartbreaker, heavy rust everywhere, as it had been used as a snowplough and the salt had rotted it badly. I'm glad I walked away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 That cab will take some work to get right!:shocked: Saw one some years ago in Aberdare in similar condition. Opened the door and it practically came off! The A post had completely disintegrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Side view of ordnance wrecker truck. Location: US Date taken: 1942 Photographer: George Strock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekawrecker Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I went to look at this diamond T with a view to buying it. It was a real heartbreaker, heavy rust everywhere, as it had been used as a snowplough and the salt had rotted it badly. I'm glad I walked away! The Douglas Matador looks nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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