commander Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 What rearly gets up my goat is seeing sections fenced off for people to come and display and for them to come for the last couple of days with a few exhibits on a pitch twice the size of what they needed ok rant over Commander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 What rearly gets up my goat is seeing sections fenced off for people to come and display and for them to come for the last couple of days with a few exhibits on a pitch twice the size of what they needed ok rant over Commander Totally agree! We've been going to Beltring every year since our first visit in 2000. We arrive the sunday before the show only to see some plots occupied and sometimes nobody arrives till the weekend or not at all! Very frustrating after 300KM to get to Dunkirk, 2 hours on the ferry and another 80 KM to Beltring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW200 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Our group is going again this year and atleast on the reenactor area they made a layout now. So every group has his/her plot and if you have anything left it will go to a smaller group. Which is a big improvement over last few years "well is this spot ok for you guys?, I'm sorry the rest is allready taken". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) You can tell the time of the year on HMVF just by the posts! The "my vehicle wont start" in the spring, "what im doing in the snow with my MV" for winter, "how do you keep your batteries" for the autumn and this thread for pre Beltring show season! R Edited June 29, 2011 by robin craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 it will be w&P showers next!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) Lots of talk about plots....still hope someone can reserve a spot for us as asked in the previous topic. I'm losing the plot here...:nut: Edited June 29, 2011 by Enigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny666 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 i am going down public camping this year kinda had abit of rough part of this year and cant afford to take my landy and it sucks but i will have plenty of plots to choose from lol its my 15th year this year lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwardle Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Don't you just hate it when someone reserves a large plot then turns up with a Winnebago carrying a BSA parabike! yes it does happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny666 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Don't you just hate it when someone reserves a large plot then turns up with a Winnebago carrying a BSA parabike! yes it does happen i will plus one that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo1969 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 i will plus one that Me to. We had a guy camped next to us 1 year, he had a pitch the size of a football field, he kept telling us "my friends are comming down tommorow". No one else turned up!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Me to.We had a guy camped next to us 1 year, he had a pitch the size of a football field, he kept telling us "my friends are comming down tommorow". No one else turned up!!! I really hate those people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Anyone recall the contingent that were pitched up beside the plot the group I was with were on last year - and who used the side of the OT as a urinal?? And who weren't observed to be laughing at all the day she was started after a heavy shower in the night.... That exhaust throws out the collected water a fair way - loaded with soot.... :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Did see a plot reserved for `The Swiss Sub Mariners Assoc` last year and it was empty all week !! Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugger Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Did see a plot reserved for `The Swiss Sub Mariners Assoc` last year and it was empty all week !! Ashley They didn't surface then? my coat? why thankyou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellstar Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 How about if you're going to stake-out/reserve a spot, put a placard stating expected arrivale date/time , then 24 hrs after arrivale date/time plot given to someone else. Perhaps the W&P field marshals should do something like this or run a reservation list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoggyDriver Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Lee kindly saved our group a space last year. There was a large section behind us between us and the Excalliber lot. The group that reserved the space reserved TWO plots. One in our field and one near to Withams. Two vehicles turned up, stayed a while then dissapeared up to the plot they had at the top. It stayed empty until about the Friday or saturday of the show when a few vehicles not belonging to the group went into some of the space. There was still a massive amount of empty space though. Personally I don't think anyone should be able to reserve space. Turn up and pick your area is how it should be. Take to much and the field Marshals should take the spare space and give it to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue red blue Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 not be able to reserve a plot, my god your have the ive been pitching here for the past 500 yrs brigade on here all crabby now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Scott Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Does any one know when you will be allowed onto the showground to mark out a pitch ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrynevuk Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Does any one know when you will be allowed onto the showground to mark out a pitch ?? Not sure, they a large music festival this weekend, so maybe once thats all cleared up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 82 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) As a former re-enactor at the show, I know only too well the gutted feeling following preparation, financial outlay and time – only to be relegated to Medway field upon arrival – with little prospect of any viewers of my display ! Happened to me 3 times before I called it a day. Despite this however, I fully appreciate the issues of running such a large show and the policing of pre-booking. As I see it: · Some folks can take more time-off than others for their hobby · some live closer to the show than others and can therefore nip over to `stake their claim` the week before. These are not `unfair advantages`, just realities of life. To be super-fair, we could in theory adopt a refundable deposit policy for pitches - proceeds going to charity where there were no-shows or, requirements had been grossly over-estimated. Needless to say, the practicalities of policing such a system would be `challenging` at best. It is my understanding that the current system is first-come, first-serve – with a twist – i.e. if you come early enough to place a plaquard and some cord, you can claim your slot. I also understand that these `claims` are largely respected (well, sort-of). As much as this system has done me no favours over the years, on a practical level, I concede it works. My only suggestion is that if someone does not fill a slot on the first day of the event (Wednesday I think ?), then it should automatically be forfeited. Similarly, If a group only partially materialises, then , stragglers should be treated the same as everyone else – i.e. first-come, first serve and, the plot size reduced by the marshalls accordingly if someone is available to occupy the space. The best we can hope for I suppose is to have a level playing field with, first-come being equally applied to all. Any other thoughts ?? Cheers Steve 82 Edited July 24, 2011 by Steve 82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer nut Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) We turned up on the Wednesday and even though they had a plan for the living history field and that we submited our plans and requirements Guess what?? Yup no one had catered for us. "Oh will this plot do? There is another larger plot but they want to get another Humvee in there but it may come available but I want to leave it empty just in case." Ended up in a 25 foot wide by 40 feet deep plot whilst the 50 foot by 30 feet plot stayed empty for......Yes you guessed it...The whole show. 2x 9x9, 2x 7x9, 1x 12x12 and a mess trailer later does not leave you much room we had a 2 foot clear pathway up the middle whilst the Humvee lads who did not actualy have a humvee after that day had a 100 x 30 foot pitch for a shack and a oil drum. Oposite in a 50 foot plot was a jeep and a tent who only displayed on the saturday the rest of the time it was covered up. A Airsoft group got a double pitch. Several Vehicle orientated groups especially the LRDG got pride of place. and the Germans were given 1/2 the field. Saw 2 ww2 Desert Brit units and no others. The rest with exception of the Afghan Soviets were a mix of vehicles and tents with no display. Some even had manaquins and large empty spots where the vehicles should be. The WW1 group was excelent and should have had a better prominant spot. But as usual poor organisation let the event down. The Beer tent actualy shut down at a resonable time Mod Edit: comment removed, we will not allow flaming of fellow forum members, PM if you have a problem with this. Jon Post and Pre Beltring Blues Edited July 26, 2011 by Marmite!! Flaming forum members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 My only suggestion is that if someone does not fill a slot on the first day of the event (Wednesday I think ?), then it should automatically be forfeited. Similarly, If a group only partially materialises, then , stragglers should be treated the same as everyone else – i.e. first-come, first serve and, the plot size reduced by the marshalls accordingly if someone is available to occupy the space. Cheers Steve 82 I totally agree! Lucky enough, when we arrived Sunday before the show Ashley was there who claimed a plot. Thanks, Ashley!!! A Marshall did come by twice to ask if more people/vehicles would arrive later in our plot, so they did try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 My friends Gulf war display was in a such a position that we couldn't get the truck that goes on (and contains) the display near it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Maybe due to the obvious increase in the number of re-enactors their field should be increased into part of Monktons and everyone else move up a little to make their life easier as they do have some rather elaborate sets to build up ! Just a suggestion ( I'm not a re-enactor) :saluting: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Maybe due to the obvious increase in the number of re-enactors their field should be increased into part of Monktons and everyone else move up a little to make their life easier as they do have some rather elaborate sets to build up ! Just a suggestion ( I'm not a re-enactor) :saluting: The Worlds Largest Military Vehicle Show title of the show says it all.. make way for more vehicles, don't push them out.. don't foget there was at least one large motorhome in the Living History area.. Mv's owners are not the only ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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