Zero-Five-Two Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Copper behind the weld works well for removing heat I made a couple of these up from a bit of old heating pipe, you can move them about with the clamp so no singed fingers. I've found they suck up so much heat you have to cool them down now and again otherwise they actually put heat into your sheet metal. Hobbyweld mix 5 works very well Cost me £60 deposit and my local stockist charges £40 a go for a refill. A 9ltr cylinder lasts me at least 6 months, and I think I do a fair amount of welding Edited April 10, 2020 by Zero-Five-Two Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Thanks Rob I've found a local stockist for the hobbyweld and emailed them to see if there still open at the moment. Is that a flat piece of copper soldered to the pipe? I’ve looked at your blog for the tanker, what a fantastic find and restoration job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-Five-Two Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 It's a piece of tube, flattened out and folded in half to double the thickness. As you appear to be working on your driveway, are you upsetting your neighbours with much grinding noise? I've been using wire cup brushes or flap wheels for paint/rust removal for years. I'd not seen those sanding pads from Screwfix, they look like they might be a better idea. Rushed out and bought one yesterday, so it'll be getting a test drive today. Forum is good for learning from each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 No complaints from the neighbours yet, the cab is in the garage out of sight and I don’t make any real noise until after 10am and finish by 5pm, they all know I have military vehicles so I try not to annoy 🤔 it’s always good to learn 1 new thing each day, I will make a copper pad in the next couple of days and give it a go. The woven pads are really good on flat surfaces, be carful not to hit and sharp edges hard as it can tear them to pieces and you will need a long nose pair of pliers to tighten the grinder locking wheel as there too deep for the standard tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Not wishing to teach granny to suck eggs but have you come across these regulator I use a fair amount of gas and the company that supplies me had been using them some time and reckoned that they were saving a fortune on gas. I bought one off of the bay and I reckon that my gas usage has dropped by a good 50%, I am to say the least very impressed. Jon I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hi Jon I've not come a cross these regulators before, just looked at their website and they look impressive but a bit expensive for the amount of welding I normally do, I will have a look on the well known auction site to see if used one comes up. I’ve now made a copper heat plate ready for for next week Spend the afternoon cutting out rust and looking in despair at how much is rotten!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I bought one new for £80 and it was well worth the cost, especially looking ta the amount of welding you have got to do. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 I will definitely keep an eye out for one, there over double that price on their website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk3iain Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, johann morris said: Not wishing to teach granny to suck eggs but have you come across these regulator I use a fair amount of gas and the company that supplies me had been using them some time and reckoned that they were saving a fortune on gas. I bought one off of the bay and I reckon that my gas usage has dropped by a good 50%, I am to say the least very impressed. Jon I Are these used in conjuction with the regulator on the cylinder ? Hobyweld cylinders come complete with regulators, handy as it keeps them in date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk3iain Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 59 minutes ago, 67burwood said: Hi Jon I've not come a cross these regulators before, just looked at their website and they look impressive but a bit expensive for the amount of welding I normally do, I will have a look on the well known auction site to see if used one comes up. I’ve now made a copper heat plate ready for for next week Spend the afternoon cutting out rust and looking in despair at how much is rotten!! You are definately going to get some practice with that, but it will be well worth it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Mk3iain said: Are these used in conjuction with the regulator on the cylinder ? Hobyweld cylinders come complete with regulators, handy as it keeps them in date. I don't know about hobby weld I use the large commercial bottles. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-Five-Two Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Mk3iain said: Hobyweld cylinders come complete with regulators, handy as it keeps them in date. They don't down our way, just a plain cylinder. Or have I been had by my supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk3iain Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Zero-Five-Two said: They don't down our way, just a plain cylinder. Or have I been had by my supplier My mistake ! I just checked and it depends on the type you go for, there is a selection of sizes and it's the Ultra that has the regulator and gauges integral. I replaced a BOC hire with this and my regulator was fairly old, it made sense to me to go for the Ultra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 Morning everyone I know I asked this question earlier in the blog but didn’t get an answer, is there anyway of dating these trucks? I’ve been in contact with RLC and got its key card but I can’t find anymore information. Also still looking for a manual, 44-45 that might cover the machinery body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Ashby Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, 67burwood said: Morning everyone I know I asked this question earlier in the blog but didn’t get an answer, is there anyway of dating these trucks? I’ve been in contact with RLC and got its key card but I can’t find anymore information. Just going on the census number allocation from your key card (which is not a very accurate way of dating as number blocks were not issued in sequence I'm afraid) I'd have a stab at late 1943 early 1944 but this is more guess than deduction. If you could get frame number production figures year on year this would give you the definitive answer but I suspect these are long lost unfortunately. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 V5 states 1944 and it has a mix of 43-44 dated wheels ( not very accurate either ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 Slow progress today, how long does it take to bend and shape sheet steel!! This however has been a real time saver, bought second hand for £35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 Quick update, progress today, ZERO!! Thought I had better give the neighbours a rest from cutting and grinding, however I did order a few new tools to make life easier. still looking for a gas supplier, the nearest hobbyweld stockiest is closed, hopefully get a response from another stockiest tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of the Easter weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Ashby Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) You might want to invest in a set of Butt weld clamps ( 8 in a set) as well, Stop sniggering at the back it's what their called OK, not a lot of money and a handy things to have for holding Butt sheets together at the right gap for maximum penetration while welding. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383212721688 Pete Edited April 13, 2020 by Pete Ashby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-Five-Two Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Personally I'd put that joggler thing straight in the bin! Bl**dy hard work they are. Having tried one a few years back, I upgraded to an air powered tool. I think I've used it twice since, much prefer straight butt welding. That said the hole punch is useful for doing plug welds. A couple of welders magnets might be a good addition to the collection, ideal for setting right angles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog8811 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Ditto the above, clarkes do an air joddler/hole punch for around £50 it is so much easier than the hand tool, I have not regretted investing in one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 The tool list is getting bigger!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 At last!!! One corner finished........apart from grinding.... filling.... sanding... sealing... painting... but we are moving forward and I still don’t like welding panel work🤨 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 So........most of us are familiar with the phrase “ 2 steps forward 1 step back “ the phrase was clearly intended for restoration projects!! 1, cut away the rusted body work you want to repair , one step forward! 2, find out the rusted panel just cut off was previously welded to another rusty panel🤨 , one step back 3, repair the second rusted panel , one step forward , now your back at 1, the first step forward🤔 But slowly making progress, removed what was left of the front body mounts and replaced a section of angle that supports the passenger floor pan, makes a nice change to welding a thick piece of steel. My best bit of welding ( not going to show you the rest ) Rusty angle support cut out what’s left of the passenger body mount 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 Question time.... Is the wot6 meant to have a spare wheel, if so where does it go? secondly, what it the correct body colour for 1944 truck? It’s currently faded olive drab with the allied star on the doors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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