flyingfleasteve Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 I’m trying Ron 😂 As I slowly try and round up the last few missing bits I THINK I have found the correct gear lever? At first I thought it was G3L as it had no rubber on it but on closer inspection I can see there’s a series of nodules on the shifter end, possibly to hold the rubber end onto it? I could be putting 2 & 2 together and getting 5..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Yes, that seems to be the right one, but early G3L's also had them. Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Thanks Lex, I suspected that was the case.....it took some finding but pleased I have one last part to find........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 It's actually the same part number for the G3 and G3L #CO-92-2 I guess they just left the rubber off during the shortages. I think the later G3L's had the one with the spoon shaped end. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Cheers Ron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Spoon shaped? well it's more like a loaf of bread? Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Strange bread in the Nether regions! Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Rubber didn't really become short until after the Japanese took Malaya in early 1942....There is a tendency to assume that 1944 spec was 'normal' but allowing for 1939 production during the build-up, pretty much half of wartime production was not subject to rubber shortages and a fair quantity of the vehicles that were went straight into post-war reserve stock which is why they were so common on the 1950s and '60s demob market. Lots of rubber bits is really far more 'warry' in terms of year served. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Yep 1942 seems to be the turning point at Matchless. The earlier G3L's were fitted with a rubber. The 1942 factory pictures shows no rubber after which at some point the pedal was changed to the "loaf of bread" ?? shape. Ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Ron, it looks as if the third image, with the “loaf of bread” gear lever show the early type magneto platform fixing nut? I am not sure on the change over date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) That third image is my bike Steve. It's an early first contract frame but with a 42 engine and mixture of G3L parts. I've now changed the gear pedal for the early version and might well fit a rubber? Ron Edited March 26, 2021 by Ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Yes, always use a rubber! LOL! Here a dutch loaf of bread, the end of the lever looks a bit like it, so that's why I came up with it! Lex Edited March 26, 2021 by welbike spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 PS, sometimes there's a hole drilled in the part where the rubber slides over, and a nail was insterted, so the rubber wouldn't come off, have seen this on at least 3 early pedals, a factory thing? Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 We call that a "Bloomer Loaf" so the pedal must hence forth be called a Bloomer Pedal 😄 Ron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 Wiring started, a nice rewarding job! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) Whilst I take a break from wiring I am looking though the remaining engine and clutch parts I have to advance my built. Can I ask, firstly does anyone know the size of each of the 24 chain wheel/clutch sprocket roller bearings? I cannot seam to find this? Secondary, a little bit of group participation required, I believe I have a correct cylinder barrel for the bike? It’s not in the greatest condition and it will need re-boring, I do have a freshly machined G3L barrel in great shape but strictly not the right part for the bike, what should I do? 🤷 Edited March 29, 2021 by flyingfleasteve Missing photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Steve the rollers are 1/4"x 6mm. wide, if you use 1/4 x 1/4, there's no side clearance. Someone with a magnetic plate grinder will take the required material off in no time. The barrel on the right is the G3WO one, but do you have the right head? (or did I sell you one?) Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 For me there would be no contest. I would have to repair/restore the G3 barrel. Might be easier to locate those clutch rollers through a Triumph dealer. They also use the shorter 1/4" rollers. Reduced by about .012" from memory. No end of problems if you fit the 1/4 x 1/4 rollers. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Thank you gents, really helpful! I think I will restore the orginal G3 barrel, I have tried to make sure all of the parts I can possibly use are G3 not G3L so I will keep going. A few broken fins adds to the patina 🙂 I have started cleaning up the timing gear/cams in readiness for assembly and it appears the exhaust cam has some light scoring to the shaft which locates into the engine side bush.....I assume if I proceed to use this it will slowly damage the bush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) I wouldn't worry too much about slight scoring to the camshaft spindle. As long as the bush is not badly worn, most of the scoring can be polished out with strip emery, plus it helps to hold oil. As far as the broken fins are concerned, I would definitely have to get them repaired. Dave P is the bloke if you don't have anyone local......He can also rebore it if you send the piston along. Ron Edited March 29, 2021 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Thanks Ron this puts my mind at rest! The spindle is a little tight so emery would help reduce the scores and free up the spin (win win) All bushes are brand new, Dave did a full overhaul. Il have a chat with Dave ref. the barrel, I think I might of stressed him out enough, however, with the bottom end. I have just sourced some 1/4 x 6mm clutch rollers, thank you so much for pointing this out both, the bike came with 1/4 x 1/4 and I nearly ended up putting them in 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 8 hours ago, welbike said: Steve the rollers are 1/4"x 6mm. wide, if you use 1/4 x 1/4, there's no side clearance. Someone with a magnetic plate grinder will take the required material off in no time. The barrel on the right is the G3WO one, but do you have the right head? (or did I sell you one?) Lex Hi Lex, sorry forgot to reply, yes I have the correct head curiosity of you 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Lex is Curious🙂 Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) Well it's just ithat I sent out a head and a barrel to 2 different people in the UK last year, but I cannot remember what to who! Lex Edited March 29, 2021 by welbike spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Lex, Something went to Barry Fuller! Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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