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  1. RAF vehicles were usually delivered to M.U.s (Maintenance Units) rather than direct to operational units. Hartlebury (No.25 MU) crops up a lot. Handforth was 61 MU, Qudegeley No.7. Sheffield is difficult to pin down though.
  2. What about a possible UNRRA connection, Jan ? Haven't you seen before that there were WD/COs supplied in Northern Europe ? Rebuilt Home Office stocks would be a candidate for that and could explain the mix of Army and AM contracts.
  3. I believe that is a Greek marking...with the Hellenic crown below.
  4. The brown is likely to have originated in the standard pre-war colours and be 'Brown, Dark. G.S.' Establishments varied over time, but by 1944, an infantry battalion included 11 x Car 5cwt 4 x4 (Jeep).
  5. The brown should be the original and it looks as if the Light Stone is on top of it.
  6. Typically for eBay sales, no background info at all. 'AT' was a Kingston upon Hull that ran from 1904 into the 1920s - probably only used on motorcycles. The bike in the background is a Zenith-JAP with 'Gradua' gear so presumably not military...
  7. Is the registration number British ? 'BM' was a Bedfordshire series issued 1903 to 1920, but the use of dark letters on a slightly lighter background is a puzzle, or has something occurred to the negative ? It's either a foreign or civilian registration which probably means that it's not an issue motorcycle. Here's another Harley though (from eBay a while ago)...Presumably they were quite available surplus as soon as the Americans returned ? Cap badge looks to be RE again.
  8. The photo doesn't show the Triumph factory but is the Royal Army Service Corps depot at Feltham. Up until mid-1940, the factories did not paint on the WD serial numbers and it was done at the depot. It looks as if this batch at least didn't have rear numbers. Maybe because they were intended for active service in France where a unit marking would generally be applied. Rear lights were fitted but I suspect delivered separately to avoid damage in transit (they were sent from the factory by train, I believe). The wiring is there.
  9. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.640453,-1.789559,3a,75y,335.22h,95.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sK_X-xiTZXXGx1z0H0OMCRw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DK_X-xiTZXXGx1z0H0OMCRw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D295.32477%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
  10. The AB412 listed all the tools and equipment...This one is BSA M20 but it's clear that most of the additional items were standardised. I wonder if Mark 'Tiger 80' can still be contacted ? He didn't scan the page from his AB412 which shows the tools...maybe it hadn't been completed, but if it has then you'll have the definitive answer. http://hmvf.co.uk/profile/13288-tiger80/
  11. I have no specific knowledge of the Triumph situation but it seems likely that there was a similar practice to the better known kits supplied with Norton, BSA and Royal Enfield....The Ministry of Supply agreed a basic toolkit with the manufacturer which was based on the standard pre-war civilian tools and roll. To this was added a list of extra tools and equipment to scale such as oil cans, where supplied, chain spares, tyre repair kits etc. This situation doesn't seem to have been entirely static. Sometimes these were supplied by the manufacturer, at other times via WD stocks and the contract
  12. Unfortunately, Pawel, I tend to classify my 'saved' motorcycle images by make and serial number rather than user...Unless I recall a photo, it's difficult. I think that 17954 'could' have fallen within C5108 or been an associated spare frame. Orchard & Madden though state that the following contract C6128 ran from 17300 to 18299 but I haven't been able to trace their sources for this. There is no doubt in my mind that all the motorcycles produced for the War Office during 1939 / 1940 were Khaki Green No.3
  13. The Ministry of Supply documentation for C5108 is incomplete and only refers to the initial order for 300 machines...But most contracts included an extra 10% spare frames and engines and 5% spare gearboxes. At this early stage of the war with frame numbers not 'married' to WD serial numbers, it seems likely that most manufacturers supplied frames from factory stocks and that these were numbered. This could mean that your frame was a spare part, or that there had been batches of spares taken from an earlier production sequence. It's guesswork really.
  14. In terms of provenance, I think it's necessary to research how or when these could have been delivered. British Lend-Lease to Russia didn't start until October 1941. It would seem unlikely, bearing in mind the great shortage of vehicles after the Fall of France that these Triumphs made in early to mid 1940 would have been kept in store for over a year. https://www.o5m6.de/redarmy_old/Numbers_Foreign.html The alternatives would seem to me that they were captured by Germany in 1940 and maybe used together in an area that became part of the Eastern Block...maybe an airfield or base dep
  15. 40 3S tells you what you need to know about the model. C5108 was the Ministry of Supply contract for initially 300 machines and then a further 3000. At that early period of 1940 it is likely that they would have been used to supply the BEF in France. It seems that sometimes they stamped the individual WD serial number and sometimes the contract number. The Polish identification plate is interesting. Clearly someone arrived at an incorrect year of manufacture. The '40' prefix should have told them that 🙂 The Polish Airforce in the UK used vehicles from War Department stock and RAF ve
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