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Perhaps the caption is suspect; I don't think that Landing Vehicle, Tracked in the middle background came ashore at Normandy.

 

John.

 

yes they did. At least two LVT-2s are known to have been used for the landing operations on Utah Beach. One LVT-2 survivor is displayed in the "new" Utah Beach museum.

 

The other vehicles that can be seen are two chassis of Cromwell/Centaur (possibly Centaur Dozer) and most probably Loyd Carriers (or Bren carriers/Universal Carriers?). Not sure but I think that I can see some Shermans on the very back ground.

 

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I stand corrected re the LVTs at Utah; I didn't know that... Is it odd that a US LVT is in a dump with what appears to be exclusively British Army armour? Did the RN use LVTs in Normandy?

 

Did the British Army use LVTs to cross the Rhine?

 

John.

 

Yes, the British Army did use LVT 4 for the Rhine crossing but not in Normandy. I would be skeptical that the photo is Normandy but if it is, it may well be later in the war or even post war.

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I love you Jack :iloveyou:

Great photo, as has been said; lots of Loyd Carriers. Interestingly the one at the front on the right and the one in the front middle are TS&C (Tracked Starting & Charging) used for getting Armour up and running, I was unsure if any were actually used in NW europe, but it looks like they were. You can tell it's a TS&C from the lack of frontal armour plate, the brackets for tools on the angled upper hull and the internal bulkhead seperating the drivers compartment from the gear in the back. There must be at least 10 Loyds, some with the QF 6 Pdr additional side armour plates still clipped to the side of the vehicle. Perhaps it is Normandy in summer of 45? The grass is long and healthy so it is summer time.

 

Just found another TS&C in the second row back and off in the distance just to the right of the centre look to be Churchills...well it's a gut feeling based on the turrets. Cromwells, Universal Carriers MK1 & MK2s, plus Shermans in the distance.

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Another nice photo, I think your Hetzer is more likely a Jadgpanzer IV, the Stug a PzIV and there looks to be a rear view of JagdPanther at the back.

Yes, I think you could be right. The 'Hetzer' is a little long and the rear end view is definately a JagdPanther.The 'Stug' could well be a IV... Pure porn xxx.

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I just bought a copy of the May, June, July issue of "Normandie 1944 magazine" by Heimdal in France. Interestingly it has an article on the use of LVT's in Normandy. Unfortunately my French is not good enough to fully understand the text, but if comes with some interesting pictures, including the one Jack posted at the start of the thread. From what I understand they suggest it might have been taken at Ver-sur-Mer. The article also shows a pic of one on what seems to be Omaha beach and some stills of a US Coast Guard film with one in action, all of which I remember to have seen on Missing-lynx modelling forum a few years ago.

 

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apparently hte Americans left 2 lvt s parked in the Utah dunes once they had served thier purpose and it is one of these that is in the museum there but I also saw 2 parked in a transport/skip yard on the road between St Lo and Carentan last week ,of course this doesnt mean they have local history

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Amazing when you think that just putting a large tarp over that lot (of scrap), leave it for 60 years and it will turn in to £1million worth of historic vehicles!

 

Also, the vehicle centre looks like a "Wespe" Self Propelled Gun, would normally have 10.5cm Gun.

 

and the closer one, possibly a Grille? which would have a 15cm gun. The bit that looks like a dozer blade I guess is the rear of another vehicle

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