Jack Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 All the caption say is 'Normandy Tank Wrecks' What can you see in there and can you name them? Quote
john_g_kearney Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Perhaps the caption is suspect; I don't think that Landing Vehicle, Tracked in the middle background came ashore at Normandy. John. Quote
the_shadock Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Perhaps the caption is suspect; I don't think that Landing Vehicle, Tracked in the middle background came ashore at Normandy. John. yes they did. At least two LVT-2s are known to have been used for the landing operations on Utah Beach. One LVT-2 survivor is displayed in the "new" Utah Beach museum. The other vehicles that can be seen are two chassis of Cromwell/Centaur (possibly Centaur Dozer) and most probably Loyd Carriers (or Bren carriers/Universal Carriers?). Not sure but I think that I can see some Shermans on the very back ground. P-O Quote
Adrian Barrell Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Lots of Loyds, a few universal carriers, some Cromwells, at least one Churchill, some Shermans and a single LVT. Quote
john_g_kearney Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I stand corrected re the LVTs at Utah; I didn't know that... Is it odd that a US LVT is in a dump with what appears to be exclusively British Army armour? Did the RN use LVTs in Normandy? Did the British Army use LVTs to cross the Rhine? John. Quote
Adrian Barrell Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I stand corrected re the LVTs at Utah; I didn't know that... Is it odd that a US LVT is in a dump with what appears to be exclusively British Army armour? Did the RN use LVTs in Normandy? Did the British Army use LVTs to cross the Rhine? John. Yes, the British Army did use LVT 4 for the Rhine crossing but not in Normandy. I would be skeptical that the photo is Normandy but if it is, it may well be later in the war or even post war. Quote
ajmac Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) I love you Jack :iloveyou: Great photo, as has been said; lots of Loyd Carriers. Interestingly the one at the front on the right and the one in the front middle are TS&C (Tracked Starting & Charging) used for getting Armour up and running, I was unsure if any were actually used in NW europe, but it looks like they were. You can tell it's a TS&C from the lack of frontal armour plate, the brackets for tools on the angled upper hull and the internal bulkhead seperating the drivers compartment from the gear in the back. There must be at least 10 Loyds, some with the QF 6 Pdr additional side armour plates still clipped to the side of the vehicle. Perhaps it is Normandy in summer of 45? The grass is long and healthy so it is summer time. Just found another TS&C in the second row back and off in the distance just to the right of the centre look to be Churchills...well it's a gut feeling based on the turrets. Cromwells, Universal Carriers MK1 & MK2s, plus Shermans in the distance. Edited August 1, 2012 by ajmac Quote
berna2vm Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Now,this is more like it. I would be like a child in a sweetshop here.... Quote
berna2vm Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Panther G ,Panther D, SDKFZ 251,Hetzer, King Tiger, SD KFZ 234/4, maybe a Stug.... Quote
ajmac Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Another nice photo, I think your Hetzer is more likely a Jadgpanzer IV, the Stug a PzIV and there looks to be a rear view of JagdPanther at the back. Edited August 1, 2012 by ajmac Quote
the_shadock Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 on the second photo, I can see a Soviet SU-76 and most probably a Flakpanzer IV Möbelwagen at teh front of the photo : P-O Quote
berna2vm Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Another nice photo, I think your Hetzer is more likely a Jadgpanzer IV, the Stug a PzIV and there looks to be a rear view of JagdPanther at the back. Yes, I think you could be right. The 'Hetzer' is a little long and the rear end view is definately a JagdPanther.The 'Stug' could well be a IV... Pure porn xxx. Quote
Alex van de Wetering Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 I just bought a copy of the May, June, July issue of "Normandie 1944 magazine" by Heimdal in France. Interestingly it has an article on the use of LVT's in Normandy. Unfortunately my French is not good enough to fully understand the text, but if comes with some interesting pictures, including the one Jack posted at the start of the thread. From what I understand they suggest it might have been taken at Ver-sur-Mer. The article also shows a pic of one on what seems to be Omaha beach and some stills of a US Coast Guard film with one in action, all of which I remember to have seen on Missing-lynx modelling forum a few years ago. Alex Quote
ford 369 Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 apparently hte Americans left 2 lvt s parked in the Utah dunes once they had served thier purpose and it is one of these that is in the museum there but I also saw 2 parked in a transport/skip yard on the road between St Lo and Carentan last week ,of course this doesnt mean they have local history Quote
simonm Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Amazing when you think that just putting a large tarp over that lot (of scrap), leave it for 60 years and it will turn in to £1million worth of historic vehicles! Also, the vehicle centre looks like a "Wespe" Self Propelled Gun, would normally have 10.5cm Gun. and the closer one, possibly a Grille? which would have a 15cm gun. The bit that looks like a dozer blade I guess is the rear of another vehicle Edited August 16, 2012 by simonm adding Grille Quote
Sean N Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Any info as to the first photo ('easy one') - place, date etc? The sign in front of / on one of the carriers at the bottom looks as though it says 'Vorsicht! Lebensgefahr' on it. Quote
Pzkpfw-e Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 No idea, just found it whilst playing with Google! The colour one is a well-known Frenchman's field! Quote
ajmac Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Perhaps that explains why there are more mk1 carriers around today..... The mk2 were used in NW Europe and thus scrapped when the war ended! Loyd on the top of the pile by the way. Quote
Richard Farrant Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Austin K3? :-D K5 4x4 to be precise! Think that pic was taken in Germany, mid to late 50's. it is next to a rail track so presume they were ready for the smelters. Quote
David B. Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Austin K3? :-D [ATTACH=CONFIG]66530[/ATTACH] Austin K5 Quote
Richard Farrant Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Austin K5 David, you will have to be quicker than that Quote
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