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Ah, look at that. I totally missed that in the catalogue. It has gone to Belgium I hear.

 

I understand that lot 16 was actually a heavily modified WW1 White, which sold for 4,000

 

P442 was another one I missed, a Latil but in appalling condition. Sold for 1,500

 

The WW2 GMC's sold for 550 and 950 with the other two not selling.

 

I quite liked P497 the WW2 US Searchlight which didn't reach a reserve of 400 so didn't sell.

 

I am told the stuff which interests us most has gone to a Belgian dealer. I expect it will come up for sale again later on.

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I need some help to identify a pair of front truck wheels I have located. The rim diameter without the tyre band is 850mm which would make the wheel with rubber stand about 1metre tall. It has unusual bearing caps of brass with no markings. I would be interested to learn what type of truck they belonged to.

 

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Marcel has put me on to a couple of interesting items. Steel ammunition body as used on Quads and FWD's. I have been told that about 16 of these were recovered at the same time having been used as paint stores in a factory. One thing they have in common is that the back doors were all removed. Two are already in this country and here is another one up for sale:

 

http://www.leboncoin.fr/equipement_auto/529417657.htm?ca=15_s

 

2,000 Euros is perhaps not too bad a price.

 

The next thing is a pair of TBC Whites:

 

http://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/529844358.htm?ca=15_s

 

Both look very restorable, although I would prefer a nice set of solids as opposed to those pneumatics. A case of mix and match. 15,000 the pair. Not unreasonable.

 

Thanks for telling me about these Marcel.

 

Tim

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Hard to tell, but it could be. I could tell you from the chassis number. That is the fourth early White in a Month and I know of a fifth one for sale in the Netherlands. Typical. You wait for one for ages and then five turn up at once.

At 3,250 Euros that is a very fair price, although getting correct wheels could be expensive.

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Ford model T ambulance, possibly: http://www.prewarcar.com/index.php?option=com_caradvert&view=ad&section_id=1&id=86696&Itemid=432

 

This vehicle has a strange cowl and a longer than normal steering column. The aficionados seem to agree that it is WW1 period but no firm conclusion on its original form: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/382042.html?1377170013

 

Anyone know more?

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Ford model T ambulance, possibly: http://www.prewarcar.com/index.php?option=com_caradvert&view=ad&section_id=1&id=86696&Itemid=432

 

This vehicle has a strange cowl and a longer than normal steering column. The aficionados seem to agree that it is WW1 period but no firm conclusion on its original form: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/382042.html?1377170013

 

Anyone know more?

 

Ford Ts were imported by the War Office as chassis cabs and bodied in the UK, probably at Trafford Park, but sometimes by other bodybuilders. It was not considered efficient use of either the transatlantic convoys to use space for bodies or government funds buying bodies in the USA when they could be built cheaply at home.

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Here is a WW1

 

http://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/483289270.htm

 

 

WW1 two trailers for trucks a précosse with its wooden structure in very good condition, still in its gray color and markings still visible.

The second suffered, but all metalic pieces are present, the two front tires still marked "Berguougnan" good basis for restoration.

little help to make a beautiful and rare set with a truck in the same time ..

a trailer of the same type is visible Dufresne museum ...

militaria, ww1, the subject of hairy ancestor, nash-quad ..

for the team the right corner is a trailer ... thank you

Berguougnan was a French tyre manufacturer who's name is still on new tyres today.

So this would have been a French Trailer but very much like the RFC/RAF road going trailers:

 

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I hope someone picks it up as it looks in good condition considering its age.

 

Tom

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militaria, ww1, the subject of hairy ancestor,

 

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

 

Don't you just love Google Translate! -"Objet de poilu" refers to the trailer having been in use by the French army.

"Poilu" literally translates as "hairy one" but was used by the French as a generic nickname for their soldiers; in effect their equivalent of our "Tommy".

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They are for sale since may of this year. I enquired about them but at that time he said he had an offer of 1900 €.

I have a trailer but haven't been able to find any info about it yet.

Marcel

 

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very much like the RFC/RAF road going trailers:

 

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Tom

 

Tom

 

do you have any more pictures of british 4 wheel trailers used during WW1?

 

I have a 'Eagle' trailer of the correct period, and it has WD style hooks on the rear of the chassis. Just like a subsidy lorry.

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Here is the only other one I have, I have not been collecting images of this type of trailer.

 

I have called them road going trailers because they have solid tyres, can be loaded with at least 2 fuselages so have a high potential weight capacity, do not impose any weight onto the towing vehicle's drive wheels and cannot facilitate manual loading of aircraft.

On this basis I could not see them being used on anything other than paved roads?

Does anyone have any information or insight into this type of trailer?

 

Tom

 

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Would this be a WW1 find? http://www.forum-auto.com/automobiles-mythiques-exception/section5/sujet225087-17990.htm#t17694986

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]85170[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85177[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85176[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85175[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85174[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85173[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85172[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85171[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85169[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85178[/ATTACH]

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Spotted this fantastic Renault last tuesday. It was fitted after the war with a double winch for cable ploughing.

 

Marcel

 

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If the winch pulls from the side then does it have a supporting structure to support the chassis? Did you take a peak under the bonnet? Robert

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It appears to be heavy enough on its own, so no extra support needed. I did not take a peak under the bonnet, there were so many things to see and time was limited. But it should look like this:

 

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]91263[/ATTACH]

 

Marcel

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