antarmike Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Does anyone have a reliable figure for the output power (or range of output power) for AEC's AV1100T, The turbo charged version of the 18ish Litre engine from their BIG dumptruck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rbrtcrowther Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Haven't got a clue.:coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Davie Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) Is this of any use Mike? Looks like a bit of a beast. http://aec.fotopic.net/p14633511.html http://aec.fotopic.net/p14633512.html Edited January 31, 2009 by Davie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 philb Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I guess you've seen this http://aec.middx.net/units/engines1.htm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) Cheers, that's the sort of info I wanted. A certain gentleman who writes books has it down as 235 BHP, but seeing as my Rolls Royce C6T Turbo is only 12.17 litres and gives 300 BHP, and is about the same vintage, and technology, to only be able to get 235 BHP from an 18 litre lump of the same age seems ridiculous. He may be right, but now I feel its worth further research. AEC's own normally aspirated AV 760 of 12.4 litres gives up to 265 BHP! Edited January 31, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Richard Farrant Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 A certain gentleman who writes books has it down as 235 BHP, Mike, I take it that this about the Antar which was fitted with a AV1100? If so, Bart Vanderveen has it as 360bhp in the entry on this vehicle in his post-1945 military vehicle directory ( he is rarely wrong ). Sounds like this certain gentleman does not do his research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 I can't say whose work I am looking at but I read a figure and I thought, why would they take a vehicle that has a 260 BHP Meteorite engine already fitted and be pi55ing around trialling a New engine that only gave 235BHP when the whole idea was to improve the performance of the early vehicles, which had to be said was sluggish....I just wanted to know if my gut feeling that a Turbocharged 17.89 litre Diesel has to give out more than 235, when my 12.17 turbo lump gives 300B.H.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 I can find very little about AEC's biggest dump truck The text with this image quotes output at 300 BHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) http://www.roadtransport.com/blogs/big-lorry-blog/2008/06/pacific-trucks-and-heavy-haula.html Although the Super Mammoth for the African market is also supposed to have had the AV1100 engine. (but maybe only the normally aspirated version) I can find little about them either. Edited February 1, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 N.O.S. Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 W.Stevens-Stratten,in AEC Trucks in Camera, gives 340hp for the dumptruck. He seems to have access to a lot of spec sheets for AEC. Nick Baldwin in Giant Dumptrucks quotes 340bhp (up to 410bhp SAE gross) from the 17.75 litre lump. You may be interested to know Mike that this HDK4LA dumper was developed at AEC's Maudslay truck factory. 340 bhp would be about right as engines are typically downrated a little for dumptruck applications. Phew it's hot in here by the wood fire, I must take my anorak off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) http://www.aecsouthall.co.uk/aecmodels/hdk4'>http://www.aecsouthall.co.uk/aecmodels/hdk4'>http://www.aecsouthall.co.uk/aecmodels/hdk4[25714].htm http://www.aecsouthall.co.uk/aecmodels/hdk4[25778].htm Edited February 3, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 235 BHP is becoming more and more unlikely....Thanks N.O.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Richard Farrant Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Mike, You may be interested in a FVRDE report that is available from The National Archives at Kew. Piece details: WO 194/1206 Tractor, 30 tons GS 6x4 T/croft Antar AVT1100/RV30 Dated 1967 FVRDE Report and photos, ref. no. FT/B 858 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Unfortunately thats a long drive for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 radiomike7 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Mike, You may be interested in a FVRDE report that is available from The National Archives at Kew. Piece details: WO 194/1206 Tractor, 30 tons GS 6x4 T/croft Antar AVT1100/RV30 Dated 1967 FVRDE Report and photos, ref. no. FT/B 858 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp Richard, I have tried most combinations of the above but failed to find the document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Richard Farrant Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp Richard, I have tried most combinations of the above but failed to find the document. Mike, Use that link you have, and in the top left corner there is a seach box, type in this reference, WO 194 / 1206 this will bring the entry up, you cannot see the file online, but it will give you info in order to go and view it, or get a researcher to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 I just typed Antar into the search box and it shows they hold quite a few documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 radiomike7 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Mike, Use that link you have, and in the top left corner there is a seach box, type in this reference, WO 194 / 1206 this will bring the entry up, you cannot see the file online, but it will give you info in order to go and view it, or get a researcher to do it. Thanks Richard, I was using the 'search the catalogue' section and it wasn't having it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 radiomike7 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Unfortunately thats a long drive for me! I'll see what I can do when I am next down that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 philb Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 www.aecsouthall.co.uk/aecmodels/hdk4[25714].htmwww.aecsouthall.co.uk/aecmodels/hdk4[25778].htm Does the exhaust really come out by the drivers left ear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Does the exhaust really come out by the drivers left ear? Post#8 shows that some had the exhaust re-routed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 philb Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Thought you might like this. It's not quite the AVT1100 but the turbo-charged industrial version, I think: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antarmike Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 The power curves seem to be foe the normally aspirated engine, theIllustrated engine is turbocharged and rated at 360 BHP. The power curves do not even get up to 280 BHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 philb Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 You're quite right. It was the 360BHP for the industrial variant that surprised me. I would then expect the road and rail versions to be higher still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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antarmikeDoes anyone have a reliable figure for the output power (or range of output power) for AEC's AV1100T, The turbo charged version of the 18ish Litre engine from their BIG dumptruck?
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