AndyFowler Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Lets see how many people like military machines that are designed to save life and only shoot water and foam ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Having been involved in some restorations in the past for the Manston Fire Museum, here are a few that we done for them, not completely finished in these photos though. They are a 1956 Dennis F12 appliance built for the Royal Navy and used at an Ammuntion Depot and the other is the first 1969 Land Rover TACR1 issued to the RAF, its last use was at Lydden Motor Circuit before laying derelict. These photos were all taken over 12 years ago now and the vehicles are well known at shows, both fire and military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Was the Denniss built as a 6 and 8 cyl,got film somewhere of one doing about sixty and when he backs off sheet of flames from the silencer:cool2::cool2::cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 Lovely restorations mate ! :bow: My favorite Landrover I must admit ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Was the Denniss built as a 6 and 8 cyl,got film somewhere of one doing about sixty and when he backs off sheet of flames from the silencer:cool2::cool2::cool2: CW, Some used B60 ( 6 cyl ) or the bigger bore B61 and others used B80 or B81 ( 8 cyl ). The Dennis here is a B80. I have driven it many times and it is a real classic machine with a good turn of speed and yes they do tend to flame, just tell people its the afterburner :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Lovely restorations mate ! :bow: My favorite Landrover I must admit ! :-D Thanks Andy These were done when I worked for REME Workshops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted angus Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Not quite on the same scale here is my Army Fire Service trailer pump. built nov 1943 , spent its complete life with the Army, by 1945 it was in Germany. Later it returned to Bicester depot and it ended its days in the 1980s at Culttybraggen camp in Perthshire. It was rescued by the previous owner from a scrappies in Perth. When I bought the pile of scrap in 1997 I presumed it was ex NFS, research then revealed its true identity which was a real bonus as I was a member of the Scottish Military Vehicle Group. I still had about 7 years left in the RAF at the time and I lived in MQ therefore a full size vehicle was out of the question at the time. With red, grey and matt drab/green being the common colour for pumps at the shows I chose 1954 as the restroration point knowing the correct colour was gloss deep bronze green ; even RAF fire appliances in Germany at that time were in gloss DBG. Pure coincidence that 6 years later I chose another gloss DBG vehicle for a restoration !! but thats another story Yes that was the kitchen where I rebuilt the engine ! No timing marks on the engine, so a big card protracter was constructed so I was over the moon when after completion she started 2nd turn of the handle. TED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Wow Ted a real credit to you,looks beautiful ! :bow::bow:Any pics of before the retoration please ? :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Yes Ted Very nice,still got the rare T plate as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted angus Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Attached are a couple of pre restoration pictures. The lad who rescued it from the scrappy got her running, did some cosmetic work and put her into NFS grey she was in IRR matt green when rescued. He caught the restoration bug in a big way and stripped her down to do a full job. He even took the rings off the pistons !! He then got the chance of an even larger trailer pump, mine got pushed to the back of his shed and forgotten about. He did a fantastic job on his new aquisition showed it for a couple of years then put it up for sale. I got a call from a 3rd party saying a pump was for sale. Paid the guy a visit but said no thanks I want something to restore not just polish; attention then turned to the trailer chassis and pile of boxes at the back of his shed. I'll take it !! The late Bill Ireland ( a top man that many MVT members will remember) lent me a trailer and a couple of days later a deal was done and the attached piccies show most of it in my married quarter back garden. THe engine in "restore 1 " is an SM from a Coventry Climax ex army generator this was to be a donor for spares. The head from the FSM engine can be seen just below the trailer wheel. The block, crank and pistons were safely in my nieghbours garage (only every second MQ had a garage) pending negotiations with I.C. House !! I soon tracked down a WW2 spares manual and operating manual. but there was never a H O workshop book. (I later tracked down an RAF tech manual for it). I tracked down an WD generator manual to obtain TDC BDC etc etc. I then got a call from the Station's housing office asking if it was true that I had a fire engine in my back garden Yes I answered and put the phone down on them . !!! They were all civil,servants and found us W.O.'s difficult creatures to deal with ! Some bits took some real searching, whilst other items were fabricated the manhandling bars were missing , they are spring loaded and they took some fettling until they operated correctly. Turning to the T reflector I made that I saw one on a trailer at a show sketched and measured it in great detail . Made up 2 paxilin jigs one for the plate the other for the T that sits on the back of the plate. After several false starts the plate was made and given a wired edge the hollow T was made the circular cutouts put into the plate. I then got a couple of red oblong reflectors and cut the reflective portions to fit inside the T. then attached the T to the back of the plate. THe silencer was no too brilliant, it gets filled with water from the exhaust ejector primer when you pump from open water, I got her skinned and she has been fine for the last 10 YEARS. Alas back in june at the village gala the pump was pushing exhaust out throuigh the pump !! you guessed the silencer had totally collapsed internally. I believe one from a FWP climax pump(side locker of a Goddess) will fit just need a slight modification to the pipe joint, just waiting now for my source to finish moving house and get it in the post. TED PS once it was restored I couldn't get it out of the garden but I had been nuturing a contact at the housing office they converted a section of my garden fence into a double gate !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Nice one Ted , thanks for posting ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smokinbarrels Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Evening Gents, Looking better than ever Ted! Thought i'd post a few pictures of a Thornycroft DP2 owned by the Royal Air Force and Defence Fire Service Association. Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokinbarrels Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 And some of the Thornycroft Mk7 owned by the association. Regards Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T corbin Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Two more WW 11 Crash trucks T CORBIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 And very nice they are to ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokinbarrels Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Just a few more of the collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Just a few more of the collection. I like the Bedford HCB/Midi, I think it would look nice next to my Landy, I remember when I was given the guided tour of the sheds at Manston before the museum was opened, I sat in one of these, thinking "mmm, nice!" I think Steve Shirly said that they were used to teach firemen how to tow a trailer pump. Apart from the Manston one, is any of them preserved? All the best Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambers101 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 If i found the cd i could put the pics of the Salamander my dad bought before he died. When i was at Shoreham Cement works last time there was loads of old fire engine kit there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 What happened to your Dads Salamander then Mike??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambers101 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I presume it's still in i think it's harris's scrapyard in Ashington. It may just be visible through the hedge. Not seen it myself since Dec 05. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Does the Dutch "roundel" on one of these indicate that is with the Netherlands Air Force?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Yes, probably the Dutch Airforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I presume it's still in i think it's harris's scrapyard in Ashington. It may just be visible through the hedge. Not seen it myself since Dec 05. What was so wrong with it that it wound up there??? Probably the rarest of the Alvis 6x6 family.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted angus Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Does the Dutch "roundel" on one of these indicate that is with the Netherlands Air Force?? Item 32 was used by the RN & RCAF re item 33 I have seen the story of this one will have a dig TED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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