antarmike Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 Unfortunately John has decided that he is not attending either Belvoir Castle of GDSF this year. That will leave a big gap, literally.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) Useless bit of information. The Antar C6T and the MkII and at least one Mk3 were fitted with the Darlington type 70 winch. I had not appreciated until a few days ago that the winch (indeed most of the Darlington range) was a model built under licence from Tulsa Winch. Visiting their site I see that most models that were in the Darlington range in the 1960's are still current Tulsa products. http://www.team-twg.com/en/tulsa-winch/products/worm-gear-winches-hoists/default.htm There is also a downloadable pdf manual for each of the winches, at this site. Edited April 19, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Without trawling through all the pages on this thread i cant be sure if this pic has been in before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) I feel pretty sure that is a Big Ben not an Antar, but still a nice sight for a Thornycroft enthusist... The badge on the rad guard is a bit easier to read on this one... Edited April 19, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 Interestingly both photos show railway lines..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 Like buses you wait ages and three come along together... although this is probably the Same Big Ben as is in Les' photo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 enjoy..... Mark :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Some more photos of Dutch army Antars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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antarmike Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) This Mk3 has gained another "Bivvy" in the Ballast box, behind the normal one above the winch! (well either that or someone has parked a small truck very badly!) Edited May 17, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) Myth busting and the Antar No (can't remember where I got to!) The myth says the Antar had no self recovery/ forward winching capability.... I have already posted front and rear shots of the RAF Mk1 Antars which could forward winch, and pictures of these when they were re-registered in the ZB series with the Army, showing that on transfer they could still self recover. The picture here is, I am told, of an Antar in Holland. It does not appear to be an EX RAF , later Army ZB registered Antar because the winch fitted is a Darlington type 70 not a Turner. I am guessing it is ex Dutch Army, but the Pictures of Dutch Army Antars Les Freathy posted, do not show the winch rollers underslung under the bumper. What are we looking at here? Clearly it is from another batch of Mk2 Antars that could forward winch. (Or it it a retro-fitted adaptation?) Answers on the back of a post card please.... The dutch seem to have great faith in the improved Mk2 wheel chocks! Edited May 17, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptimber Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Taken at the Aldham Rally I didnt realise just how big Antars really are ,in the top picture it clearly shows a mobile crane being used to open the cupola on the roof!!:shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I didnt realise just how big Antars really are ,in the top picture it clearly shows a mobile crane being used to open the cupola on the roof!!:shocked: :rofl::rofl::rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 There's a cracker on Ebay at the moment. Mk1 from the earliest batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) There's a cracker on Ebay at the moment. Mk1 from the earliest batch. Welcome to the forum Paddy and thanks for letting us know. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Thornycroft-Mighty-Antar_W0QQitemZ120421852221QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item120421852221&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200 Edited May 17, 2009 by 6 X 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 more myth busting... more proof that the Army "Mighty Antars" were called that, not simply "Antars". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Another Antar item on Ebay. Users hand book. Now this I could afford. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Thornycroft-Antar-User-handbook_W0QQitemZ380117440733QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET?hash=item380117440733&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted May 31, 2009 Author Share Posted May 31, 2009 Old magazine cuttings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV1604A Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Hi , Great thread; boy,have I learnt a lot. Always interested in anything Antar. Here's a new question. I have found another Antar sold through Ruddington with similar number to Mike's, but this time, 380 FUL, described as 85 ton Tractor with Meteorite engine with two gearboxes, giving 12 speeds forward and 3 in reverse, power steering , airbrakes and Darlington 15 ton winch. Anybody know any more info on this one??? Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted June 8, 2009 Author Share Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) I have heard reference to 380 FUL as an MPBW, later PSA Antar, also involved in runway testing,and logic says that it is one of the Steel Ballast Bodied RAF Mk1 Antars, but of the eight, seven went top the Army as ZB registrations, and the other one becoming 982FUL. However it is claimed 47 AN 03 became 75 ZB 93, only to gain a MoS number RGX 978, finally becomong 60 EP 57. If this Ex RAF Mk1 did not stay with the Army in the ZB series it is entirely possible that another also went on to have a third or even fourth life and could have ended up as 380 FUL. However if the information that it had a Darlington winch is correct, then of course it could not be a Mk1 but would have to be a mark2. Edited June 9, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV1604A Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Hi Mike, The details came from the Ruddington catalogue itself. It was obviously a last-minute entry as they issued it with lot number 1824/1, whilst 1824 was a Rubery-Owen two wheeled air-braked trailer chassis. Date was 19th July 1968 and it was located on the Marshalling yard grounds of the Rdgtn site. Regards,Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) Just bought a book on old time heavy haulage. It is a collection of articles from certain Military and commercial vehicle magazines. I was surprised to read in there that the Mk3 Antar had a road speed of 40MPH. I thought that seems fast so I looked in the user handbook and at max engine revs the Mk3 Antar does 35 MPH but elsewhere in the handbook the maximum RECOMMENDED road speed is 30 MPH. For the record the relevant handbooks also show that my model of Antar , the C6T (again erroneously identified in this magazine based book as a prototype Mk3!!!) does 32.5 MPH at max engine revs and the Mk2 did 28.5 MPH. Seems there is still a lot of room for myth busting...... Incidentally the Mk2 had an identical transmission ratios to the C6T. The C6T is faster because the diesel Rolls C6 actually revved higher than the Petrol Rover Meteorite.... Edited June 10, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Just bought a book on old time heavy haulage. It is a collection of articles from certain Military and commercial vehicle magazines. I was surprised to read in there that the Mk3 Antar had a road speed of 40MPH. I thought that seems fast so I looked in the user handbook and at max engine revs the Mk3 Antar does 35 MPH but elsewhere in the handbook the maximum RECOMMENDED road speed is 30 MPH. For the record the relevant handbooks also show that my model of Antar , the C6T (again erroneously identified in this magazine based book as a prototype Mk3!!!) does 32.5 MPH at max engine revs and the Mk2 did 28.5 MPH. Seems there is still a lot of room for myth busting...... Incidentally the Mk2 had an identical transmission ratios to the C6T. The C6T is faster because the diesel Rolls C6 actually revved higher than the Petrol Rover Meteorite.... I would agree with you Mike, did many miles in my Mk3 and on a number of occasions got my wife to clock my speed when travelling behind in the car. It would cruise happily at 35mph with a little bit left over, was revving at around 1950-2000 rpm. 40mph was never achieved. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 The two beautifull Mighty Antars owned by the Cordwell family at the 2009 War and Peace Show ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Little clip of the two Antars at War and Peace this year ! Something went wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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