antarmike Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 i have allways been led to belive that a heavy locomotive dous not need a class 1 licance . i have been driving heavy locomotivs on a class 2 since i passed at age 19 (without a trailer ). i was told that a ballest tractor dous not carry eny load so it can not be a HGV . but in the eyes of the law it is best to have a class one Just before I took my HGV 1 I talked over with DVLA towing a living van, behind my Douglas, which I explained to them was a locomotive. (Light Loco at 8.25 Tonnes, first use 1952) and was told categorically that I needed an HGV 1 to drive the combo. That is why I took my test. I have never regretted this decision, because even if that info from DVLA was wrong, you can hold no higher lcence and there can never arise a situation when you are prosecuted for not having the correct licence. (buses tracked vehicles etc excluded from my comment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AndyFowler Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Interesting read Mike ! Thanks for posting ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 I am sat here bored, I put a bad cut across the first knuckle of right hand yesterday at work. Can't use the hand today, any movement opens up the cut so I am at home recovering/ healing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I am sat here bored, I put a bad cut across the first knuckle of right hand yesterday at work. Can't use the hand today, any movement opens up the cut so I am at home recovering/ healing... Hope you and Antar get well soon mate ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 Just got the Military Machines International Mag Dec. Don't see it locally but had a day out. Good Antar Fature by Goeff Fletcher. (Mark 1 and 2) Mark 3 to be Covered in Jan 2009 Issue. (I hope that will be as good!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) Just got Jan MMI, Geoff's Article on the Mark3 Antar has some cracking good photo's, some I never seen before. The Antar with a Cheftain bridgelayer, is simply wonderful.... Edited December 7, 2008 by antarmike Can't spell.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 AEC Society Rally May 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ex.Chris Miller Mighty Antar. From Big Al's Truck Stop website - copyright James Sleight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 There's getting to be so much stuff on these threads it's becoming hard tell if one is duplicating links already posted so.... I'm hoping this link to a very interesting site is new to the forum and not already on here. http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://baor-locations.com/images/16%2520Sqn%2520Wksps.jpg&imgrefurl=http://baor-locations.com/16TkTptrSqn.aspx&usg=___U5_EB2HX-uUsAgrji2OcmSS7GM=&h=495&w=640&sz=35&hl=en&start=477&sig2=DbQZ372mvTmxAtTrW92JPQ&tbnid=g7apsb5Z-QBsXM:&tbnh=106&tbnw=137&ei=IrZFSYeOL4-W0QTU6KD0Bg&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAEC%2BMilitant%26start%3D462%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ex.Chris Miller Mighty Antar. From Big Al's Truck Stop website - copyright James Sleight. Did Chris Miller have two Antars? I seem to remeber him running an Ex Army Mk3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) Well maybe I was wrong. That is the Big Al's site photo of Chris Millers Antar. I believe that it is with the Lawtons in Derbyshire now, For some reason I thought it was an Ex Army mark 3 not a civvy (basically oilfield) version. Does anyone know what engine is in it. I reckon it is probably Rolls C6Turbo... can anyone confirm? Edited December 15, 2008 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Well spotted Mike ! It is different to the Chris Miller Antar in Heavy Haulage and Abnormal Loads by David Lee ! It is described in this book as an Ex-military MK3A which he purchased in 1979 ! Built in 1964 and powered by a straight eight Rolls Royce of 313bhp ! Photographed by Mr D Tomlin in 1988 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekawrecker Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ex.Chris Miller Mighty Antar. From Big Al's Truck Stop website - copyright James Sleight. This is the ex Boscombe Down long wheelbase Big Ben/Antar? seen in another photo on the back of a yellow low-loader trailer. Whilst at Boscombe Down it was re-engined with an AEC AV760 engine. It's never been owned by Chris Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekawrecker Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Just remembered where I saw the picture! It's on Neil Fraser's excellent CCMV site. Heres the link; http://ccmv.fotopic.net/p54921540.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekawrecker Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 There's getting to be so much stuff on these threads it's becoming hard tell if one is duplicating links already posted so.... I'm hoping this link to a very interesting site is new to the forum and not already on here. http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://baor-locations.com/images/16%2520Sqn%2520Wksps.jpg&imgrefurl=http://baor-locations.com/16TkTptrSqn.aspx&usg=___U5_EB2HX-uUsAgrji2OcmSS7GM=&h=495&w=640&sz=35&hl=en&start=477&sig2=DbQZ372mvTmxAtTrW92JPQ&tbnid=g7apsb5Z-QBsXM:&tbnh=106&tbnw=137&ei=IrZFSYeOL4-W0QTU6KD0Bg&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAEC%2BMilitant%26start%3D462%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN Very good 6 X 6, thanks for that, something for everyone there!:coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 A good piece of detective work by all concerned. I must be truthful and say that I thought it was some sort of civilian Antar when I posted it......thanks for putting me right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 Well spotted Mike ! It is different to the Chris Miller Antar in Heavy Haulage and Abnormal Loads by David Lee ! It is described in this book as an Ex-military MK3A which he purchased in 1979 ! Built in 1964 and powered by a straight eight Rolls Royce of 313bhp ! Photographed by Mr D Tomlin in 1988 Yes that's the one I believe is with the Lawtons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) another Civvy operator was Elliotts of York. They blew this ones engine up when using it as a pusher. It got dragged by the lead tractor too fast, and over-revved the Rolls engine, that threw a conrod. TheAntar rear bogey was put under their Pacific, after this , to replace the chain drive. Edited December 19, 2008 by antarmike technical error corredcted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) This one was run by John Cooper (allegedly on timber work!) before being used on M1 for recovery by Tony Potton, Of Dunstable. Seen here at Thornycroft rally Basingstoke owned by Mervyn Annetts. Edited January 4, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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antarmike Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) This is claimed to be 982FUL, an ex RAF petrol Antar that went onto runway testing with MPBW, alonside my Antar 983FUL. (I have my doubts) Seen here at L.W.Vass she was sold for further work in New Zealand. I say claimed to be, because I would have thought that the front winch rollers would show in a shot from this angle and they do not appear to be there. The RAF mark 1 Antars differed from the Army Mk1 by being able to self recover using the winch fed out under the front bumper. Rear view of an RAF Petrol Antar shows a third winch pulley. (two pulleys are placed paired centrally further forward in the chassis, ahead of the horizontal guide rollers) Thornycroft Society Ltd. The Army version did not have the third left hand pulley. The winch could not feed to the front. The RAF Antars that transferred to the Army gained ZB registrations. Here 75ZB98 shows that the winching forward capability was retained on transfer. Note the winch rollers hanging under the front bumper. Edited February 15, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 I am waiting for someone to suggest that the picture of 982FUl is actually 02BD16 that also passed through L W Vass but BD's bumper is the same colour as the bodywork, and to my eyes FUL has a black bumper, as per RAF practice on it's petrol Antars. Comments welcomed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) BD also has very noticable rusting to gutter over windscreen, FUL does not. FUL has writing on bridgeplate BD does not, FUL has cab mounted mirror missing, BD's is still there. FUL could be in RAF blue grey?? Certainly it is a different colour to the Maggy parked to its offside. FUL seems to be a gloss finish, BD seems to be Matt / Semi-Matt. (compare with Gloss Bedford M type) But front tow pin rests in same place, Wipers are parked in same place. Both seem to have a near identical mark, lower left drivers windscreen., Same front tyre tread Pattern. Is this FUL???? The Photo of FUL, has a spare wheel, that matches those originally supplied on the RAF batch. Edited December 18, 2008 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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