Rick W Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Any ideas on the vehicles? Im guessing a Cletrac and WLF? http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o72/rik242_2006/8f34_2.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Rimmer Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I can't see enough detail Rick,but it's not a Cletrac MG,looks more like a Caterpillar to me. Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 The caption unfortunatly is unreadable when blown up. The WLF must be a 1000 Series 1, 2 or 3. It looks like the crane operator and the fitter on the Cat are wearing berets, which would make this a British Army scene, which would suggest a Series 2 as they were all made to UK contracts. Does anyone have the skills to 'clean up' the caption to make it legible? Think it starts off with "3rd...." Does this posting qualify me for the "Sad Shack"? :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 another example of a WLF doing a bit of heavy lifting http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff35/abndeuce/408121041_bc3ebc0a8f.jpg[/img] French caption Un Sherman M4 surnommé "Hurricane lors de l'opération de remplacement du moteur Continetal R975C ; le 16 aout 1944 à Le Teilleul Le M4 fait partie de la 2nd Armored Division, de la H Co, d'un des deux Armored Regiment. (on voit débarquer ce même Tank en p012923) La dépanneuse est un Heavy wrecker Ward La France M1, du 2d Armored Ordnance Bn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 looks like the early WLF...not that I like them, or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Series 4 :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banme: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Series 4 :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banme: +10 points to that man for identifying the curved boom of a series 4. :tup: Here's one of my favourite photos: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 2 x Series 2 British Army units - super pic! Any chance of printing a few of your best pics in the next UKWLFOC magazine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Brings back memories...same scenario with a WLF just moved forward 40 odd years (1985) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Brings back memories...same scenario with a WLF just moved forward 40 odd years (1985) On the set of "Full Metal Jacket" by any chance? (Beckton gas works) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Yes it was at Beckton, doing yet another starter drive change on one the "Walker Bulldog" tanks, engine and g/box out, we got it down to less than 2 hours, they were very prone to breaking the drive on start up from cold if the engine kicked back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 2 x Series 2 British Army units - super pic! Any chance of printing a few of your best pics in the next UKWLFOC magazine? Edition 11 is already finished and on its way to the printers and no 12 looks to be fairly full, but maybe I can shoehorn it into the one after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Here's another with thanks to Army Motors magazine. 10 points to anyone who can correct the caption! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Here's another with thanks to Army Motors magazine. 10 points to anyone who can correct the caption! It should read M3A5 :whistle: Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 It should read M3A5 :whistle: Richard Well done! +10 points. Ok :roll:, another 10 points to anyone who can identify the other error in the caption... (ie. the one I'd noticed...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 the max tow load was 70,000 pounds! and depending on which winch the boom winch was rated at 16,000 to 20,000 lbs , it could lift 8 tons a drag winch was rated at 47,500 lbs the front winch rated at 20,000 lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Well done! +10 points. Oh goody :thankyou: can I redeem the points at the bar at Beltring ? :tup: Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Ok :roll:, another 10 points to anyone who can identify the other error in the caption... (ie. the one I'd noticed...) It IS possibe to distinguish from this angle between the two types - it is a WLF (front mudguard curvature, sad or what?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 It was not rated 6 tons until after the war. When it was introduced in 1940 it was classed 4 tons and by 1943 was classed 10 tons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 I've been spreading misinformation - it was the Series 3 (365 units built in 1943) which were supplied for Lend-Lease (Great Briain), not Series 2 as I suggested previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Any ideas on the vehicles? Im guessing a Cletrac and WLF? I've just found a slightly cropped copy of this picture in the Tankograd publication on WLFs, which gives the following caption: "Mechanics, using a Ward LaFrance M1 Series 1 heavy wrecker, change a Caterpillar tractor's engine during the Louisiana Manouvers in September 1941" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 It IS possibe to distinguish from this angle between the two types - it is a WLF (front mudguard curvature, sad or what?) That's the one I was referring to! Regarding the other points about winch and crane capacities and chassis rating; even the US Army TMs and data plates give different ratings. Every book seems to state something slightly different and the various user armies rated them differently at different times. One day when I'm bored I must hunt out all the different versions and put them into a spreadsheet. :yawn: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 You bored? Never! There is far too much to do when you get back young man. (I have been busy hiding from the dark/rain/cold). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markheliops Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Oy you lot - Go do something useful. If you converted all that brain energy to physical energy - my WLF would be finished by now. :whistle: and yes, I am jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Maybe father christmas will bring some willing volunteers for you... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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