JakLomas Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Hi everyone, I have a document wallet for in my Land Rover 110 and I would like to find out what sort of documents would have been kept inside, I recently got the B-card from the RLC Museum and I found an equipment list that mentioned AB562 does anyone have a scanned copy of this that they could share and any other documents that would have been kept in the wallet? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonb Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 I don't know the AB562 but I would like a copy of the what we knew as the "work ticket" as used in the 1960s/70s and maybe later. Like you I have a rather bare vehicle document wallet. gmb 03BB33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Hi everyone, I have a document wallet for in my Land Rover 110 and I would like to find out what sort of documents would have been kept inside, I recently got the B-card from the RLC Museum and I found an equipment list that mentioned AB562 does anyone have a scanned copy of this that they could share and any other documents that would have been kept in the wallet? Thanks, The AB562, which is the Vehicle Record Book was not kept in the document wallet. The unit would hold this and if the vehicle went to workshops, then the 562 would go with it. My memory says there was an accident form in the wallet, but I forget the number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 The accident reporting is in two parts FMT-3 and FMT-2 also there should be a three page document detailing recovery procedure the list of documents to be carried in the vehicle is listed in the CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris c8 fat Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 we had contact details of who to call in emergancy breakdown ect some had soxmis cards as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Yep, you need a work ticket and an FMT3. Some units included the small white booklet giving instructions for Service drivers, and, if authorised to draw fuel from civilian sources in BAOR, there may be fuel coupons. and, as others have said, quite often there were contact details for duty recovery. But, don't forget, for true authenticity, you also need a cheap, half-chewed biro which only just works! 10 68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Don't forget the toll warrants for places like the Dartford Crossing :-) Usually carried 3 or 4 that had to be signed for and returned at EndEx. Same with the fuel carnet's for refuelling at civvy filling stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Yep, you need a work ticket and an FMT3. Some units included the small white booklet giving instructions for Service drivers, and, if authorised to draw fuel from civilian sources in BAOR, there may be fuel coupons. and, as others have said, quite often there were contact details for duty recovery. But, don't forget, for true authenticity, you also need a cheap, half-chewed biro which only just works! 10 68 You were lucky I usually had to find one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 One thing not mentioned the Navy had a VUR this had to record stop and start time for each trip and odometer reasons to correspond. Not sure re the RAF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I feel that this thread has great merit and it is something I have long tried to recall myself but somehow I have little memory of the paperwork these days. We should archive as much as we have individually and post them up here for all to see and be able to download and reprint for ourselves. I have some papers here and will attempt to scan them and upload them. If anyone has knowledge then please show and explain how they were filled in and used, my memory is non existent nowadays on the subject. This thread should be wary of updates in the forms through the years and the wise ones should point this out for us all. Of to look for my papers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean N Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 A mate who was in the RAF refers to these document wallets as Form 600 wallets, I'd guess because Form 600 is the equipment demand / issue form. If I remember rightly from trips with him in RAF vehicles, and from those vehicles I bought that escaped the disposal sales with some of their paperwork intact: Form 600 copy, accident report forms, mileage / trip / fuel record, contact details, maybe driver and recovery instructions (not sure on these), any paperwork specific to that trip, random bits of paper etc. stuffed in there for convenience. I once bought a vehicle - can't remember what - from Aston Down that was absolutely stuffed with accident report forms. Not sure that unit had much confidence in their drivers. I also bought an RL workshop vehicle that had every drawer stuffed with Biscuits, Brown, but that's another story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakLomas Posted July 2, 2016 Author Share Posted July 2, 2016 Thanks for your replies, I've just remembered I've got another vehicle wallet that I only bought because it had some documents in it. I'll dig it out and post what I find tomorrow. It would be interesting to find an AB562 and work ticket just to record what work I've done on it for if I ever sell it as well as display. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Having hunted, I have found a, not very good copy of the RN record sheet I used from about 1986 to 1995, wonder if its changed. Sorry for the size of image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 RAF Form 524 MT Vehicle Record Card - Front and Back - for BSA WD B40 motorcycle 35 AX 18 I don't think these would be carried in the works-ticket wallet. They would be held by the Unit MT Office. 10 68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakLomas Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Hi everyone, This is what I've got in my vehicle document wallet now, I've added the Rules for driving in Germany, Belgium and Holland and the RCT Aide Memoire, the rest were in a document wallet from a MAN SUV. Photo 1 shows the wallet and contents. Photo 2 shows the kit list for the Vehicle Mechanics basic tool kit attached to the visual aid (Photo 3) and packing list for MAN SUV JU37AB (Photo 6) Photo 4 is the procedure for breakdown and recovery Photo 5 shows the Regimental Telephone List for 23 Engineer Regt Photo 7 I believe is the FMT-3 which has been mentioned previously and photo 8 is the envelope it all came in. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploughman Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 The tool kit list would not normally be carried in the wallet but would be with the toolkit itself or held in store. Same would apply to the packing list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwardle Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Hi everyone, This is what I've got in my vehicle document wallet now, I've added the Rules for driving in Germany, Belgium and Holland and the RCT Aide Memoire, the rest were in a document wallet from a MAN SUV. Photo 1 shows the wallet and contents. Photo 2 shows the kit list for the Vehicle Mechanics basic tool kit attached to the visual aid (Photo 3) and packing list for MAN SUV JU37AB (Photo 6) Photo 4 is the procedure for breakdown and recovery Photo 5 shows the Regimental Telephone List for 23 Engineer Regt Photo 7 I believe is the FMT-3 which has been mentioned previously and photo 8 is the envelope it all came in. Thanks, These documents are current and should not have been sold. The vehicle that they refer to is still in service!! The AB suffix came in to use in 2005. MAN SVR JU37AB was at Warminster this morning!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 "You are not obliged to say anything unless you wish to do so, but anything you do say may be taken down in writing and used in evidence against you, your nicked my son" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakLomas Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 These documents are current and should not have been sold. The vehicle that they refer to is still in service!! The AB suffix came in to use in 2005. MAN SVR JU37AB was at Warminster this morning!!! In that case what would you suggest I do with them? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ives Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 In that case what would you suggest I do with them? Thanks, i would suggest you take them along to your local teritorial army centre explain where they came from and ask politely if they had a couple of blank forms that you could have in exchange im sure they would be glad to have original classified material back and understand you had bought a document wallet for your vehicle in good faith whithout knowing it was classified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonb Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Going back to earlier posts, I've now found out the the "work ticket" currently in use is Form F/MT 1001 which seems pretty much as I remember it from the 70s. The one I filled out last week certainly had lots of boxes to fill in. Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 this as you can see is from 1966 l asked about the MAN documents to be told that those have been superseded which may be why they were not removed from the wallet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craftsmanx Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The AB562, which is the Vehicle Record Book was not kept in the document wallet. The unit would hold this and if the vehicle went to workshops, then the 562 would go with it. My memory says there was an accident form in the wallet, but I forget the number. FMT3 , that's a blast from the past as I've been out since 1973. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret1958uk Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I have several older forms and accident sheets from 60's, 70's and 80's. The earliest accident forms have perforations and are quite fragile. Stored folded as found in the wallets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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