agripper Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Which club has the most benifits for its members? Disc ount , good magazines, events, support, access to librey of publications ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooky Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Got to be the MVT for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I hate to say this -but- it's always seemed to me to be a case of it depends on what era vehicles you are interested in. WW2 or earlier then the MVT is the best followed by IMPS. If you are interested in Post War era vehicles then the impression I've gained over the years is that there isn't as much interest from any of the major clubs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
private mw Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 im happy with MVT ...:coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agripper Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 Do you get any access to any publications archive with eitehr of these clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooky Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) Do you get any access to any publications archive with eitehr of these clubs. MVT has a good library (just reorganised) They are interested in all MV's Articles in windscreen recently include Land rover etc. Edited May 20, 2009 by Brooky spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 In general, the greater the number of members the higher the quality of newsletter. Both MVT and MVPA have a good balance of club, technical and historical articles. IMPS more club based. MVPA probably have far more trade ads (useful if you have American MV) in their newsletters. MVT has probably the best private classified ads, although the monthly mags are better (especially Classic Military Vehicle). Open to views as to whether IMPS or MVT organise better tours. If you own something really unusual, the relevant marque clubs are probably worth considering. In my view the club with least bangs for your bucks is HCVS, even if you like civvy trucks and buses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 MVT library here: http://www.mvt.org.uk/library_files/library.htm It's a bit hit and miss as it's reliant upon donations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agripper Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 I am a member of the National traction engine trust and there quaterly mag is very [rofesional and the membership is £20.00 a year which is the same as a single make club I know of and they dont give you anything newsletter. I was thinking of going with the MVT , I have a Landrover, Centurion BARV and a Alvis Sabre. Would this be the best club for support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm happy with MVT, although I've found cheaper insurance than the companys they recommend;..........Windscreen is a great read. Was a member of IMPS, but left due to attitude of local rep,(at the time NOT current rep). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 My insurance is just coming up who did you get your quote from ? Commander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agripper Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 I got a good deal with Barry Granger, evan cheeper than the last 2 years with other insurance. And thats with it being on the drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 MVT library here: http://www.mvt.org.uk/library_files/library.htm It's a bit hit and miss as it's reliant upon donations. Just had a quick look at those list of files, not seen them before. You'd have thought the MVT would've spelt `Scammell' correctly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I hate to say this -but- it's always seemed to me to be a case of it depends on what era vehicles you are interested in. WW2 or earlier then the MVT is the best followed by IMPS.If you are interested in Post War era vehicles then the impression I've gained over the years is that there isn't as much interest from any of the major clubs! Im not the only one thats noticed then, a mate gave us a pile of windscreens going way back, and only found a couple that covered post war stuff in any detail, other than a brief mention, or a photograph with a couple of lines. I haven't renewed my membership this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Im not the only one thats noticed then, a mate gave us a pile of windscreens going way back, and only found a couple that covered post war stuff in any detail, other than a brief mention, or a photograph with a couple of lines. Yes if you do go "way back" that is absolutely true. But in those days there was nothing much technical covered anyway, there was a high content on the write up of shows, barbecues etc. But any editor will tell you they can only print what gets sent in & I feel the current editor has elevated the magazine into a meaty publication that that has something for everybody, but it will can never be everything for everybody. Some years ago I submitted the outlines of two articles which were rejected by the then editor as they were outside the period 1939-45 & consequently would be of no interest to members of the MVT. I complained to a number of committee members & after receiving an aggressive letter from the then editor, I decided to leave the MVT. I then had one of the articles published in Wheels & Tracks which had no problems with WW2/PW. Before my subscription expired a new editor was appointed, he continues today having elevated the magazine into a prestige publication. Having tested the water, I see I have had articles occupying 323 pages of Windscreen at no time have I ever encountered any resistance to my PW topics (although I have to admit some more recent articles are largely pre-war & by that I mean pre-WW1!). Much as I would like the magazine to be cover to cover Pigs & Shorlands, I realise that can never happen. If an article is put together well, I will often read it although it officially is of no interest to me. I am currently following the article on rebuilding a Jeep engine & gearbox! So if you have something of interest to submit be it PW or not send it in for publication, I am convinced in the present hands there is no era bias, the editor is dependant on what gets submitted. I just feel sometimes we PW enthusiasts can be too sensitive & develop a "chip on the shoulder" approach which only adds to a divide real or imaginary. But for any era you can't expect everyone to love your particular vehicle or field of interest. I think the MVT is the best that we have got & it is worth supporting to keep it going. We may all have little niggles that we may not be happy about but on balance a good job is being done. In the way that one might support a political party, you may not agree with everything, but if you feel it gives the best overall option you give your support over the alternatives. Edited May 21, 2009 by fv1609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I just feel sometimes we PW enthusiasts can be too sensitive & develop a "chip on the shoulder" approach which only adds to a divide real or imaginary. But for any era you can't expect everyone to love your particular vehicle or field of interest. Well said Clive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Having a foot in both WT/PW camps i find that the coverage in windscreen is far more varied than perhaps it used to be, but as Clive said the editor can only choose from articles that have been submitted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 In reply to Clive's article, It wasn't me, when I was Windscreen Editor, that sent the article back. When I did Windscreen, it was a struggle to get ANY articles. The articles I printed reflect the interests of the people sending in things to print. I only rejected anything if I found out that another magazine had already printed it, and this only happened twice in over 7 years. The MVT, IMPS and all others rely on people sending in articles to print, so if you don't like what you read in Windscreen, send in an article yourself. Clive, I read your bits in Windscreen and enjoy them - many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I think the MVT is the best that we have got & it is worth supporting to keep it going. We may all have little niggles that we may not be happy about but on balance a good job is being done. In the way that one might support a political party, you may not agree with everything, but if you feel it gives the best overall option you give your support over the alternatives. Absolutely agree with you Clive. I have had my differences with the MVT but nothing is perfect and it is essential that we have an organisation to speak with authority to defend our hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yes i agree with that as well. I thought that the matter of WW1 vehicles was not really covered in windscreen, so I started doing my own and now i am in every issue. A number of people who have little interest in WW1 trucks have commented to me that they enjoy the articles. So i would always say to anyone who wants to read an article on a specific subject that they should have a go at writing it themselves. It can be very rewarding and who knows what it might lead to. The subject matter of Windscreen is incredibly diverse and long may it continue. Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryH57 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I think the Ex Military Land Rover Assoc is really good as it is great for getting technical queries answered via their forum. As for the MVT I may own a post war Lightweight but I still enjoy reading about war time memories and WW2 vehicles, so never get bored with the MVT's Windscreen. As for WT verses PW there is no divide at all in the Heathrow & West London MVT as they welcome everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Well i know its not a club of sorts. But i think this forum gives more in terms of friends made,information given, and recieved and a different outlook on the M.V scene. I will give an example. That old fella Catweazle was on the verge of giving it all in a couple of years ago. I told him about the forum,he joined and the rest is history. Just look at the Bunker Bash. Old wise one was still up till 2.30.a.m socialising. You wouldnt have seen him doing that two years ago. He would have been in bed by 10.00. And up the next morning moaning to all that listened about the f***ing noise coming from the tent next door.Now its like someone has restored him to his former glory. See. So just from that little story,then this forum and the people that use it,has given a lot more than all the previous clubs mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Well i know its not a club of sorts. But i think this forum gives more in terms of friends made,information given, and recieved and a different outlook on the M.V scene. I will give an example. That old fella Catweazle was on the verge of giving it all in a couple of years ago. I told him about the forum,he joined and the rest is history. Just look at the Bunker Bash. Old wise one was still up till 2.30.a.m socialising. You wouldnt have seen him doing that two years ago. He would have been in bed by 10.00. And up the next morning moaning to all that listened about the f***ing noise coming from the tent next door.Now its like someone has restored him to his former glory. See. So just from that little story,then this forum and the people that use it,has given a lot more than all the previous clubs mentioned. Totally agree, this is great (HMVF) certainly the first point of reference i go to now. As for pointing Catweazle at this forum........:shocking: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Totally agree, this is great (HMVF) certainly the first point of reference i go to now. As for pointing Catweazle at this forum........:shocking: :rofl::rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agripper Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 The forum is a big help with sharing of information. I think with most true clubs a voted leadership has to be a must so as not to have it dominated by a small group who only look out for there own interests. I have nerver understood teh pricing of some clubs. with some you pay very little but get a good mag and good support as well as social events where as other clubs who by the price you would expect quite a lot but get noting at all , I would guess some of you will know of at least one club like that. I was going to join the ex military landrover club but did not think my lieghtweight hardcore enough for them, as it is not complete with the radio kit just on the outside it is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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