flyingfleasteve Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 2/23/2021 at 5:52 PM, Ron said: Very well done Steve. Mine had the four little bend out lugs to clip it into the panel (silly idea) How is yours fixed? Also at the bottom of the brass bezel, where it meets the Bakelite base, I had to sand those three little lumps off to get it through the hole in the panel. Ron Hi Ron, I an not quite sure how this is held in at the moment.....I thing I might need to make something 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Like I said, some had a huge spring on the outside, will take a picture later today, if I can find one. I have this box of odds and ends, I can see a spring there, but a lot it has been used now. Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) Yes, on the model BM, there is a spring and a retainer ring, see picture, spring is not an original btw. I guess you can make the spring and ring? Lex Edited February 26, 2021 by welbike additional info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I wondered what those three lumps were on the bottom of the ammeter, and yet there was no way my ammeter would fit through the hole in the panel until I sanded them off . The bent up tabs under the rim worked fine on mine. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Ok, you're lucky then, others don't have the tabs, it also says so in that Lucas document that Rik posted, but there should be at least one little cut out in the panel, to prevent the instrument rotating, and have seen them with more cutouts. Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Yes mine has the one cutout at the top and I even started to file out the others, but it was easier to sand those lumps off as I didn't need them. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 Very interesting and helpful, thanks gents! Unfortunately I only have a repro panel at present, I missed one on eBay a few months ago and can no longer find any others for sale...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 So with the bottom end of the engine still away for rebuild I have continued with any other small jobs I can. The engine has been a nightmare with up to 99% of the components now being replaced, it’s taken some time sourcing a few of the spares but I think we are nearly there! 😬 On the flip side it will be just like a new engine.....Ron you might have some trouble catching me 😉 The rear plate is now sprayed and fitted, I have knocked up a few crude clips to keep the lighting cable away from the rear wheel where it ducks underneath of the mudguard. After these rewarding little jobs I hit a more major hurdle, I did not realise the rear brake pedal stop had been cut off/removed so this weeks task weld a new one on and try not to spoil the paint 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 It looks like the brake pedal boss sheared off with fatigue. If it was brazed on, check all the solder has gone before you weld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 Cheers Chris I am going to grind it back gently tonight and see if I can repair it 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 ".Ron you might have some trouble catching me 😉" I'll put my high lift cams back in and we'll see about that😜. My engine has also undergone a full rebuild with bespoke needle roller big end. Having said that, I start getting scared after 50mph.😕 Steve do you like that heavy pitted look? Personally I use loads of high build primer and W&D paper to get rid of most of it. It's no criticism, just a debate as I know lots of guys like to show its history. Lex for instance quite likes it to be seen. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Well, small pitting I don't mind, but where is the line? I would have welded the hole in the rear mudguard stay, it takes quite some force to get it on the rear stand, and might bend? Had the same problem with the rear brake pedal stop, if the bike falls over on the near side, it will break off! Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 8:43 AM, Ron said: ".Ron you might have some trouble catching me 😉" I'll put my high lift cams back in and we'll see about that😜. My engine has also undergone a full rebuild with bespoke needle roller big end. Having said that, I start getting scared after 50mph.😕 Steve do you like that heavy pitted look? Personally I use loads of high build primer and W&D paper to get rid of most of it. It's no criticism, just a debate as I know lots of guys like to show its history. Lex for instance quite likes it to be seen. Ron I don’t mind some pitting if the part is structurally sound, I do like keeping a hint of the bikes history, even in some instances small bumps and dents (which in this bikes case I have remedied). There has been a fine line with this build as many if not most of the components have this ‘aged patina’ which I have decided to keep. I plan to filler prime the rear carrier because that’s a little to pitted for my tastes but I have to say I am pleased with the honesty of the rest of the bike. This machine has certainly tested me, and the engine build is still throwing hurdles which currently are expensive ones. I can only hope that the finished article, although maybe slightly weathered, doesn’t look like a dogs dinner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 For me, I like a used look, one that has a few dents, scratches and worn areas. I don’t like the abused look where it’s obvious something has been left to rust out to the point that no one sees a value in it and it’s simply been unloved. Unless of course, someone decides to preserve it in that state, such as that WW1 tank that was dug up and preserved as found. That kept the rust and damage and looked a mess but it retained that originality of the battlefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I can't argue with any of that. I've just got this awful obsession with trying to make everything look new again.😣 Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 45 minutes ago, Ron said: I can't argue with any of that. I've just got this awful obsession with trying to make everything look new again.😣 Ron Nothing wrong with that Ron! As you well know I have been going through a stage of not painting anything which is either brass or shiny 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 So I have finally welded the rear foot brake stop back onto the frame, it took a little while to get it just right but it’s not going anywhere now! Next is to prep it up and respray the area before the bottom end comes back. I have also dug out this Mansfield saddle cover, pretty grubby but generally in great shape so hoping to use it, although not strictly correct, instead of a repro one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 P.S Doesn’t the battery carrier look better 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 Momentum has slowed a little while I wait for a few parts including the engine to come back to me. I decided to tackle the rear rack as I was never happy with the heavy pitting of it. Unfortunately filler primer never really touched it so I tried a different method, which I must say has transformed it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Yes Steve in severe cases, A smear of ordinary body filler rubbed down with 60 or even 40 grit can smooth things out. But it can be built up with 10-15 coats of high build primer (2 pack is best) which never looks like it's doing much until most of it rubbed off with 240 W&D. Ron👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 Cheers Ron, good advice! slowly getting there. It’s keeping my hands busy until some of the other missing components arrive. Lex might be able to answer this, out of curiosity roughly how many G3 panel tank machine are still left in circulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Nice work Steve! Hope you get your tank soon, seems like it was a good deal! I'm not keeping a register, but G3WO's are very popular in Holland, there are about 30-50 here as a wild guess, but in the UK?? Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 Thanks Lex! Yes they appear to be a popular machine! I just love the pre war styling..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Steve did your bike come with no tank or a rusty tank? I can't remember? Good that you located one. Ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, flyingfleasteve said: Thanks Lex! Yes they appear to be a popular machine! I just love the pre war styling..... Yes, I think it's one of the most stylish bikes of the war!! compared with a late M20, now that's an ugly ducklin!! My goal is to find a 1939 G3WO, as that is even nicer, with the twin downtube front frame. Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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