john1950 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Diamond T Lionheart to under take that restoration. I think the quality of work is gold standard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attleej Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 For pressing out the trunnion pins from their bushes, 50 tons is really only a push fit! On my Crane Fruehauf trailer the equivalent pin took 300 tons to press the pins out of the bush! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, attleej said: For pressing out the trunnion pins from their bushes, 50 tons is really only a push fit! On my Crane Fruehauf trailer the equivalent pin took 300 tons to press the pins out of the bush! John What exactly were you using to generate 300tons, I'm amazed you didn't bend whatever you were pushing against? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 hours ago, john1950 said: Diamond T Lionheart to under take that restoration. I think the quality of work is gold standard. lucky for me this is the better of one of the two roger's trailers i own!! but will get there one day lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 hours ago, radiomike7 said: What exactly were you using to generate 300tons, I'm amazed you didn't bend whatever you were pushing against? just thinking the exact same thing, the pins on my trailer are mean't to just slide in/out by hand as there are 2 bronze bushes in the chassis bracket and 2 in the axle assembly. then a nut each side to keep the pin in position but nothing at all to stop pin rotation not that it moves much even at max articulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1950 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Sandstone got a dismantled one from Malta. I wonder what condition it was in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, john1950 said: Sandstone got a dismantled one from Malta. I wonder what condition it was in. who is "sandstone"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attleej Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 The 300 tons? I knew that it would be bad so I cut the brackets across the centre of the trunnions and the lifted off the rocking beams. The pins were pressed out of the bushes with a 500 ton horizontal press. Some of them required heat as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Few more jobs completed, re fitted my re built (again!!) injectors. Managed to borrow a correct RR C6 injector pump so new governor springs can be maid for my pump, so hoping won’t be to long know. been pushing on with the new spare wheel carrier as well and removing the remains of the original hinges so they can be fixed and re used. Original rack wasn’t terrible but was badly corroded in spots and was no easy way to cut all the welds to remove it so made sense to start again. Un finished welds will be done when I turn the trailer onto its side like when they were made originally. Still plenty of welding inside the neck but the front & middle sections are nearly finished. Front plate stitch welded both sides like it was originally. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Managed to get a good half day on the fruehauf while the sun was out. With the frame on its side I managed to get a load of awkward welds sorted. The frame needs rolling onto its other side to complete other welds. The other important job was to get a 1/2” bow out of the king pin plate, this happened at some point while welding in the new I beams into the neck. Which I didn’t spot till I had flipped the frame up side down. Luckily despite being nearly the full width of the king pin plate the bow only went about 4” in from the edge. between clamping the I beam, running the heat up and down the vertical and pulling on the I beam with 2 chains/binders to help get the twist out. The end result is spot on so I’m know happy to carry on and fit the snatch block mount point. More welding inside the neck and on various other parts of the frame while on it’s side. lastly got the new spring clips which are used to hold the D links on the side of the trailer in the upright position. Other wise they drop down just past 90 degrees and are easily caught. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utt61 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Awesome work! I am really enjoying this thread, thank you for the updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 17 hours ago, utt61 said: Awesome work! I am really enjoying this thread, thank you for the updates. Your most welcome not sure if I’m inspiring or putting people off the idea of restoring the big stuff lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Had another decent stint on the Rogers Saturday with more welds completed on the main frame. Almost a professional lol!! decided to have a break from welding so made a new cover plate for the king pin compartment. the original was so borderline I just went with the easier option of going new plus I’ve used thicker plate so you can actually put a decent load on top of the plate if needed. Back to welding but a nice simple job of re installing one of the missing D rings which was missing. Luckily I have a load of originals I cut of a scrapped Rogers so simple task of cutting of the retainer and welding back on. Surprising how long this took as there is 12 passes on each side with 3.2 mm rods. also bolted the horizontal fare-lead rollers on to check they fit as the full width roller and brackets are from a doner trailer which needed bolt holes converting to slots. Which must have been common as the original brackets had been changed to slots as well. Glad it’s starting to look like a Rogers again, next job is weld on the snatch block mounting brackets , finish welding the mud guard on the front left corner and bolt the track guides on so I can weld the nuts to the under side of the deck as original. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1950 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 There is some strangely satisfying when a weld run descales itself. Great work very time consuming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 12 hours ago, john1950 said: There is some strangely satisfying when a weld run descales itself. Great work very time consuming. it is very satisfying when the scale curls up, try to keep doing a bit each evening after work and try to get the neck area finished. soon start to fatten it all up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Got the fare lead’s all sorted nice little job ticked off the list. after torching the plates decided it was easier to square the plates up on the mill rather than grinding them. Didn’t take to long in the grand scheme of things. boring pin holes with boring head on the Bridgeport. IMG_1154.MOV New shieve pins and nuts. ready to fit to the neck next job drill some big holes in the new piece I let into one of the central I beams, make new break chamber brackets and bolt track guides on then weld the nuts to the underside of the deck. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Good afternoons work new brake chamber mounting plates cut, drilled and fitted, just snatch block mount to clean up and weld on. Also got hinges sorted for the spare wheel racks so that can be finished as well. marking out and drilling new plates using originals as guide to get holes in right place. setting up the bracket closest to front of trailer 1st, this one is longer to allow room for the air lines into the back of the brake chamber. Can’t have holes in the I beam to allow air lines through as the air tank is on the other side of that beam. 2nd mount fitted showing the holes for the air lines. both NOS brake chambers mounted were they need to be. After getting the mounting plates fitted I stripped the brake chambers to make sure the bores are clean and lubricated. There is a main rubber seal with a felt wiper seal in front of it. lubricated all internal parts with air tool oil as everything was dry but luckily all holes were plugged very well with French newspaper dating from the 70’s. the brake chamber cap and piston return spring. going back together again for another very long time. to finish off I cleaned up a pair of spare Rogers rear axle shafts, never know when they may come in handy. Just in case a bearing spins etc. Got loads of parts being blasted and painted by Jason Jeffries and soon I’ll be getting into the rear cross members as well. 1st set of 8 wheels finished. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 skimming Rogers brake drums, glad there split hubs and not the early single piece lumps. cleaning up and welding the snatch block mount to the neck. new spare wheel rack lids being fitted, managed to save some of the original hinges, can still see the “Stanley” stamp in them after all this time. Removing the smaller of the 2 beaver tail crossmembers, plan to replace both but 1 at a time. needle gunning the chain locker floor which luckily doesn’t need replacing. Used the stacked bags of compost lean’t up against the plate to absorb the vibrations when needle gunning. all ready to fit 1st new beam, you can see all the holes in the main rear cross member. This will be completely replaced as well. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Got loads going on with work but still finding time know and then to keep the project moving. jigged up and welded the original bracket back in for the air line water separators, nice simple 5 min task. re attached the one cleat that was near as dam it ripped off on the beaver tail. Originally bolted on with counter sunk bolts but like most the bolts break so they were welded to the deck and the broken bolts welded in to the cleat. another missing D ring fitted. new I beams to replace the 2 rear crossmembers completely as there is no point trying to let bits in. new wheel bearings for the whole rear bogie assembly. Torched the rear crossmember out which was a fiddle as the beam is slotted and t’d into the main chassis beams. So ended up chopping out in about 6 different pieces. Got a lot of grinding and prep work to do yet but almost at the end of all the welding repairs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog8811 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) A day will come where you tow the trailor to a show, people will probably look at it and think "nice trailor" what they will not know is the amount of time and effort you have put in to get it back on the road to get it there. I take my hat off to you, that is a real labour of love. PS I wish my welds looked like yours! Edited May 13, 2022 by rog8811 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootes75 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I must agree, thats some very neat welding on such heavy duty material. It will look great when finished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzH Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 What a great piece of work! Great thread, looking forwards to the next updates..! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1950 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 9:24 PM, the DT guy said: who is "sandstone"? Sorry I have just seen this question. Sandstone is a Museum in South Africa covering living steam as well as civilian and military vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 9:17 AM, john1950 said: Sorry I have just seen this question. Sandstone is a Museum in South Africa covering living steam as well as civilian and military vehicles i think i know the place your referring to, they have a Rogers trailer which they tow around behind the steam engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the DT guy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 After 10 months I got the injector pump back and after taking the truck out, there is no comparison in performance from before. cleaning the area ready for the pump to be dropped in. a piece of art in its own right. very 1st start with injector lines cracked off. IMG_1306.MOV 2nd run after bleeding some more air out of the system. IMG_1311.MOV out of the shed under its own power for an awful long time. following day at the REME museum at Lynham. next planned outing with the truck is Armour & Embarkation on the 18/19 June. Also planning to go to Capel as well hopefully with the Rogers in tow to both events. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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