andypugh Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 40 minutes ago, Alastair said: As to dash board it was originally the board in front of you on a carriage that prevented pebbles and suchlike, having been kicked up by the horses, from hitting you. It prevents your face from becoming pebble-dashed. 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Thank you for the clarification. We have been having some discussion as to what it should be called. 'Front board', 'fire wall' and 'scuttle' have all been considerations. 'Dash board' seems to work quite well and preventing one from being 'pebble dashed' is very logical. There is always something to learn here! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon_M Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I was told it was called the 'dash board' because you dashed the reins against it when you were driving a horse drawn buggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 A variation of the origin:- When a horse kicks up debris it is also referred to being “dashed up”. So the board on the front is to protect form the horses dashing, hence dashboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangie Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Due to the proximity of the exhaust manifold/front pipe to the "Dash", it may or may not serve as a fire-wall Superb job as always, nicely thought out and always good to see things being bolted on. Alec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I've been musing about the naming of the dashboard. I think it is no coincidence that one of Father Christmas' beasts is called Dashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, Alastair said: I've been musing about the naming of the dashboard. I think it is no coincidence that one of Father Christmas' beasts is called Dashed. Damn this auto correct. What I typed was Dasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9triton Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) Alastair , you can go back and edit your posts Edited December 8, 2023 by 9triton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) We have been getting ready for the Christmas project. The timber has just arrived. Piles of the stuff! Our chippy friend, Mark, has very kindly sourced and prepared it all. We just couldn't have done it ourselves. Dad has been busily painting the ironwork in the mean time. I have been drilling the rear body braces for bolting up. These hefty pieces of ironwork go underneath the crane and would not appear on a normal GS waggon. We have just chosen to make life difficult for ourselves! You need a good project at Christmas and we always make some serious progress over the break. I am looking forward to getting stuck in! Steve 🙂 Edited December 15, 2023 by Old Bill 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citroman Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 How heavy the truck will be when finnished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Now there's a question. They are all generally about four tons. However, with a winch, crane and recovery tools this could easily top five and a half. It doesn't help the performance! Steve 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flandersflyer Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) We are getting close to a point where we are going to want to try the beast so our thoughts have turned to the drive chains. We have half a dozen chains in varying states of repair. Dad started looking at them some time ago and got one of them sand blasted. It cleaned up quite well but the sand is a bit brutal and, of course, all of the joints need to move so the sand will have got into them. Dad pickled another in the molasses barrel and that came up a treat. A couple of them didn't look too bad so they were left alone. As the joints were all seized or very stiff, we felt that every link should be taken apart so Tim started removing split pins. I had a go too but I struggle to work on the ground these days and had to resort to the vice! The pins just wouldn't come apart, even from the joints that were moving. Fortunately, you can see in the pic, that one link plate is marginally bigger then the other so I made a support plate to hold the links whilst I pressed them out. This worked well and I soon had two boxes of bits. Unfortunately, the chain showed signs of its former use with missing rollers and a broken pin. The chain is put together with short tubes pressed into the side plates. The rollers run on the outside and the pin goes through the middle. Unfortunately, when I pressed them, I disturbed the tubes, pushing them slightly through the plate and pinching the roller in between. Sorting them turned out to be quite straightforward and I just made a plug to tap the tubes back with the plate sitting on top of the vice jaws. It worked well. Eight missing rollers and a broken pin in one chain. The solution looked simple. Take another chain and use a few links from there. Unfortunately for me, the third chain that I brought with me to press is of a slightly different pattern and the two plates are exactly the same size so my backing plate has nothing to push against. I can get some of the links apart but not enough to use as spares. Going through my photos, Dad has another chain of the original pattern so I can rob some from there. I must remember to bring it back with me after Christmas. For the time being, each link needs a good wire brushing and lubricating before reassembly. Once we have 2x78 links they can go on the lorry. Christmas is going to be busy! Steve 🙂 Edited December 17, 2023 by Old Bill 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asciidv Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Steve, what is your objection to making new rollers/side plates rather than robbing another chain. Is it just because it is a easier and quicker solution to rob? If you were a motorcyclist from 50 years ago you would have a tin of 'Link Lyfe' to hand. This is a tin of solidified grease type compound which you heated up on yours Mum's cooker and then dropped your chain in. You cooked your chain for 30 minutes or as long as your dare as the horrible smell pervaded the kitchen and slowly started to seep through the whole house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Quite right Barry. It is easier and I am getting lazy! I have heated up chains in semi-solid grease before but they were chains I could lift with one hand and they were put into a gallon tin with the side cut out. These things are monstrous so I need to make up a big pan to play the same trick. Thinking about it, the bottom of a 5 gallon oil drum might do the trick. I wonder if I can get 'Link Lyfe' on Amazon? Steve 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citroman Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 You could use a wash tub/kettle they might be big enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypugh Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Inrerestingly, hot-melt chain wax has just been rediscovered by the cycling crowd, and is now the hot new thing that they rave about. Unfortunately the stuff aimed at such cyclists is very expensive. Linkyfe equivalents exist, such as https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361926663197 but enough to soak your chains would be expensive. Do you know Dr Fish, the "God of Grease" ? He might have advice on a hot-melt grease that is used industrially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I think I would be using (after cleaning) aerosol ROCOL , or similar manufacture , Chain Drive spray - periodically to get the latest thinking of extreme pressure lubricant & additives where it's needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8_10 Brass Cleaner Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 For the use the Peerless is going to get I dare say it probably doesn't matter what Messrs Gosling use as lube - they are not going to wear the chains out. And in anycase Reynold Chain is still availible new. I'd simply assemble with a smear on each pin and hole as they go back together, using the thickest grease I could lay my hands on. Messy job, but no big deal. If you did want to go the boiling in semi grease route, I'd be tempted in buying an old electric 'Burco' off facebook marketplace. And do it in one of them. I suspect more grease needed than above. As for the 'special' chain wax, probably similar to the beard wax used by such individuals. Some beef tallow would be ideal surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Hi Hedd. Many thanks for that. As we have the chain completely in bits, we can make sure that every joint has grease put in it. I have a tin of grease, described as 'heavy grease' which is more like a block of lard that we picked up somewhere. That may be the one to use. I would have to use a knife as you can't smear it with your fingers! Looks like a good winter's evening job. Just packing up to get on with the Christmas project. Hopefully, we can make a bit of progress towards our goal of being out next year. Steve 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Coates Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Hope you all have a great Christmas...and what about goose grease for the chains?🤣 Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAN_B Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I had saved over the years a number of lengths of second-hand Reynolds style 1.25" pitch duplex chain for my McDonald restoration, only to find I did not have a compatible joining link, no two being quite the same. In the end I purchased a brand new box of chain though eBay at a quite reasonable price. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammoth Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 "Bar oil" used for chainsaws would be the go. Is designed to get into the links and hang on when things are whirring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Brilliant idea! I can get that locally too! Happy Christmas everyone! Steve 🎅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypugh Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 6 hours ago, mammoth said: "Bar oil" used for chainsaws would be the go. Is designed to get into the links and hang on when things are whirring. Chainsaw oil is also meant to be delivered from a reservoir, though. It's not all that tenacious. It is used as a cheaper alternative by some motorcyclists who have chain oilers (like the Scottoiler) But for the drive chains on a truck I think it would make sense to use motorcycle chain lube products, as this is actually _exactly_ the same application. Here is a review of 55 of them: https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/motorcycle-maintenance-and-servicing/best-motorcycle-chain-lube 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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