Eyemo-ed Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Hi folks, Yes I know it doesn't have wheels but I have recently got hold of a Piat and I thought you might be able to help. It has been sitting in a barn for years and I am trying to find an original canvas webbing grip and shoulder pad cover. Repros are available( at a cost!), but look a bit new, especially if I try to retain the patina whilst getting rid of the rust! An old repro might do the trick! I have the original ones from the weapon, but they are in a sad state as you can see, nibbled by mice etc. These are unusual bits which you might possibly have knocking about, I'm also after the projectile ammo box or any other bits of Piat interest. Out of interest, how many of you would re-spray the weapon? It is heavily rusted but with some paint still visible..Hmmm.. Thanks, Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotBed Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 lovely piece, amazing what you can still find in Barns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyemo-ed Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 Thanks Graham, I have to say I think this was my one big 'find', if you know what I mean. As you say it is incredible these historic items are still out there. I have to say I was virtually speechless when I saw it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 If it came to a REME Workshops. It would be stripped down, Sand & Water blasted. Phosphated & then paint sprayed & Baked for 30 mins to harden the finish. In it's present state, it will only deteriorate further! Whatever you do will improve it's present state to protect it! I have seen worse bought back from the dead!......It's worth doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdx10 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) nice find . Edited June 16, 2013 by rdx10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
private mw Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 very nice find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Shopland Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Great find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Ashby Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Well done to you, I'd very much like to hear the story behind it's discovery, do you know how it came to be in the barn? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Ramsden Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Having just spent many hours working on a replica PIAT to make it actually look like a PIAT for display in our museum I must confess to a slight tinge of envy here. What a great find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon_M Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 if that metalwork is sound I'd think bead blasting would remove all the scale and give a coatable surface at minimal cost. A PIAT is bound to be classed as a weapon. How do you de-mil it then? pull some vital part out, weld up the trigger ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 A PIAT is bound to be classed as a weapon. How do you de-mil it then? pull some vital part out, weld up the trigger ? Correct,the PIAT needs deactivating, you need to contact your local Firearm Enquirey Officer & arrange to surrender it, they will hold it until you can arrange for the deactivation work to be carried out by a section 5 armourer & submitted for proofing. You can not carry out the deactivation work yourself. In it's current state is a LIVE weapon & illegal to own without being registered on a section 5 FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 if that metalwork is sound I'd think bead blasting would remove all the scale and give a coatable surface at minimal cost. A PIAT is bound to be classed as a weapon. How do you de-mil it then? pull some vital part out, weld up the trigger ? Grind the spigot firing face away at 45 degrees. Weld firing face section to the spigot shaft. Cut a slot along the underside of the spigot. Weaken main body under the spring retaining end . By cutting a little through the main body tube. Weld a section of steel bar in the Bomb tray area to prevent a Bomb from being inserted. That should get it through the Proof house for certifying. Through a Section Five Dealer, of course! :cheesy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I thought that a PIAT was a spigot morter. That is the bomb is projected by a spring, how is that classified as a fire arm ? Don't jump on me, I am only asking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I thought that a PIAT was a spigot morter. That is the bomb is projected by a spring, how is that classified as a fire arm ? Don't jump on me, I am only asking! The info came from a Section5 Armourer Bob.. They do get deactivated there's one here http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Deactivated-Rocket-Launchers/British-made-PIAT-gun-for-sale-gs88118.aspx Don't fall over when you see the price :wow: Certainly worth having it professionally restored if the that price is any indication what the can fetch.. Just found another with a Cert here http://www.warstuff.com/WW2-BRITISH-PIAT-DEACTIVATED-i1550122.htm Edited June 18, 2013 by Marmite!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I thought that a PIAT was a spigot morter. That is the bomb is projected by a spring, how is that classified as a fire arm ? Don't jump on me, I am only asking! Bob, the spring does not project the bomb, it fires it. The bomb has a propelling cartridge in its base, like a mortar bomb. In actuality, the spring is sufficiently powerful to throw the bomb a short distance, though I think the idea behind the spring being so strong is to absorb some of the recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Bob, the spring does not project the bomb, it fires it. The bomb has a propelling cartridge in its base, like a mortar bomb. In actuality, the spring is sufficiently powerful to throw the bomb a short distance, though I think the idea behind the spring being so strong is to absorb some of the recoil. When you talk to the FAO. Ask about wheter you can claim Obsolete ammunition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 When you talk to the FAO. Ask about wheter you can claim Obsolete ammunition. BAT Rounds are obsolete (may be a few knocking about??) .. the man says NO!! & it's FEO not FAO.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Jesus! I cant believe what they are asking for them! That is vehicle price Money!!!! :shocked: I remember when they were £350 quid each, fully deact & certed! I used to have at least Two for sale at any one time!.........I don't even own one now! :embarrassed: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RattlesnakeBob Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 just a thought ....I wouldn't have thought it'd be that hard to build some very good looking replicas in the average 'MV enthusiasts' workshop??? ...if £4500 is the price of a real one?... and lets face it ..hardly anyone that wanders past your display at a show is going to know ???. £450 would be a fair price ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bish Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 just a thought ....I wouldn't have thought it'd be that hard to build some very good looking replicas in the average 'MV enthusiasts' workshop??? ...if £4500 is the price of a real one?... and lets face it ..hardly anyone that wanders past your display at a show is going to know ???. £450 would be a fair price ? already exists and your pretty much bang on the money, its £485 http://www.battledressandbayonet.com/19.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RattlesnakeBob Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 already exists and your pretty much bang on the money, its £485http://www.battledressandbayonet.com/19.html Aw dang ! there goes another of my schemes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bish Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Aw dang ! there goes another of my schemes ! Well iots not about being forst but being best so you never know. The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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