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Jack

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Morning all.

 

I am sure that I started a post about this ages ago but I can't find it :whistle: so I thought I would start another one.

 

The reason for doing so is because of the images below :-D We were over Mr & Mrs Hardyferrets for dinner last night :beer: (thank you Sue, great food and company :-D) and Jerry was kind enough to give me a 105mm shell from Normandy, found in the Carentan area. Chuff to nuts with that mate, thank you very much and yes and I did take to bed with me :whistle:

 

I cleaned the base up first thing this morning and this is the information on the bottom of the shell:

 

105 MM M14

LOT R.C.B. 25 TYPE 1

R.C.&B. INC. 1943

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Hi,

in the past i have uncovered several bits and bobs from Falaise, Normandy and the first war battle fields to include shell heads,fuse caps, grenades, 2ww helmets (Falaise)

medals, ammo, tubes of foot cream etc.

The main problem is as i attended shows i gave a lot of it away to youngsters / other collectors, but still have the first (not the best)helmet i dug up , some 1st ww grenade heads and possibly the odd medal i shall have to find and photograph them for the site.

I can remember detecting in the Falaise gap on one of the routes to Trun in a small wooded area and found a pretty naffed pair of boots (german) followed by some rotten trousers, crushed helmet ,belt buckle etc but the best part was the top front section of a shirt with a pocket containing 9mm live ammo and above this a material medal bar which displayed :-

iron cross 2nd class,

Russian front medal,

Entry into memmle medal,

4 yrs LSGC.

 

My travelling companion at the time took the ammo (he was a firearms collector) but by the time i had got back home several other items had gone including the medal bar :cry:

 

 

Ashley

 

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Just found this ,

It is a medal awarded to the `Ostvolk` former members of the Soviet union that fought for the German army. This was found with about 15 others in a pile of buried uniform jackets not one of which was complete enough to keep but the medals buttons etc were fairly god in condition.

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[Ashley

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Here are the grenades,

the first one is 1WW German from the Verdun battlefield. there were ten of these in a stack by the side of a trench :-o although the wooden handles had rotted the heads (note clip so that it by worn on a belt or tucked in the boot) were complete and also the china pull ring and the base plates

 

 

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The second was found at Falaise

 

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I found bits of B-17 "Hang The Expense", at the crash site on its home base. The pilot aborted the take off after a mechanical failure ( tail wheel lock ) and then couldn't keep the speeding bomber straight on the runway. It crashed through two oak trees and ended up embedded in a barn.

 

Most was scrapped at the time, but a few small parts ended up in the ditch along the edge of the field. In 1994, the ditch was cleared out and dumped onto the field, ready to be ploughed in. The parts of aluminium and plexiglass were just lying on the top of the field!

 

This was the B-17 that I modelled in 1/6 scale, and one twisted piece of aluminium about 2 x 3 inches, from the original plane, is mounted in the bombardiers compartment, so it still flies, 60 + years on. The remaining parts were made into a small display that goes with the B-17 when that is on show. I'll post some pictures later.

 

Steve

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WENT TO THE HURTGEN FORREST IN GERMANY IN 95/97 SO MUCH GEAR IN THOSE WOODS ITS UNREAL NOT SUPRISING REALLY AFTER ALL THAT WENT ON THERE ,HAVE SOME GOOD PICS OF A HALIFAX WE RECOVERD SOME YEARS AGO INC 3 OF THE ENGINES !WILL TRY AND POST WHEN I KNOW HOW

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I found a piece of perspex, probably windscreen glass from a glider, while field walking one of the Arnhem LZs.

 

I also found a .303 used cartridge, a little worse for wear, while taking the kids to feed the ducks in Richmond park. I suspect (though it is just a guess) that it was dropped from an aircraft during the Battle of Britain.

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I have three or four WW1 shell cases and several nose cones and fuse heads, oh, and a british army pick head. We discussed cleaning these up on another board. One of my shell cones still had shrapnel balls fused inside. I have found grenades and stuff, but I won't touch them, even if they look empty. Stryker and I tried to bring home a barbed wire post from Ploegsteert Wood last summer but couldn't fit it in the car. I haven't found any personal items, badges or stuff. My neighbour found a near complete WW1 German helmet near Loos a few years back - it had some liner in it. It was at a time when I had two very young kids and no money. He had the option on three miners cottages not far from Dud Corner and I could have had one for......£1,000. I didn't have £50 at the time. I don't use metal detectors and don't really do "fieldwalking" even though the brilliant Martin Middlebrook encourages it in his Somme guide book. I am back in Flanders in May and have a full week on the Somme in October. My passion for the place is usually confined to walking and snapping - but treasure is welcome. A few years ago I was at Sandpits cemetery near Bethune when we discovered the CWGC were using old grave stones as hardcore for a new path. So, we brought some bigger bits home and these are treasured. We have been able to visit the grave of one of the men who has a lovely new stone at Fouquieres Les Bethune. We have a big chunk with a Sherwood Foresters badge in Stryker's bedroom. The next bit will make you cry. My father brought home a German general's metal standard for a staff car. He stored it carefully away - but one day my mother who is criminally insane (no kidding) decided "they" would know we were a Nazi family and threw it in the rubbish. My Dad was absolutely gutted. She had completely ignored his large stash of porn.

 

 

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The next bit will make you cry. My father brought home a German general's metal standard for a staff car. He stored it carefully away - but one day my mother who is criminally insane (no kidding) decided "they" would know we were a Nazi family and threw it in the rubbish. My Dad was absolutely gutted. She had completely ignored his large stash of porn.

 

 

 

 

sounds about right , what a shame :cry: :cry:

Ashley

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  • 7 months later...

blimey - what was it?

 

 

You know what it was Jack.. will try & find a photo... fancy it sitting there for 60 years & no one noticing it, not a bad find for my first venture in to a deep shelter... & found that fag packet too :-D

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I have three or four WW1 shell cases and several nose cones and fuse heads, oh, and a british army pick head. We discussed cleaning these up on another board. One of my shell cones still had shrapnel balls fused inside. I have found grenades and stuff, but I won't touch them, even if they look empty. Stryker and I tried to bring home a barbed wire post from Ploegsteert Wood last summer but couldn't fit it in the car. I haven't found any personal items, badges or stuff. My neighbour found a near complete WW1 German helmet near Loos a few years back - it had some liner in it. It was at a time when I had two very young kids and no money. He had the option on three miners cottages not far from Dud Corner and I could have had one for......£1,000. I didn't have £50 at the time. I don't use metal detectors and don't really do "fieldwalking" even though the brilliant Martin Middlebrook encourages it in his Somme guide book. I am back in Flanders in May and have a full week on the Somme in October. My passion for the place is usually confined to walking and snapping - but treasure is welcome. A few years ago I was at Sandpits cemetery near Bethune when we discovered the CWGC were using old grave stones as hardcore for a new path. So, we brought some bigger bits home and these are treasured. We have been able to visit the grave of one of the men who has a lovely new stone at Fouquieres Les Bethune. We have a big chunk with a Sherwood Foresters badge in Stryker's bedroom. The next bit will make you cry. My father brought home a German general's metal standard for a staff car. He stored it carefully away - but one day my mother who is criminally insane (no kidding) decided "they" would know we were a Nazi family and threw it in the rubbish. My Dad was absolutely gutted. She had completely ignored his large stash of porn.

 

 

 

the rule in the Somme and the rest of the Great War front line is don't touch!! Remember the Iron Harvest still claims victims. If I sound a bit Ansty on this it's spending time with the professionals. Whilst I have the greatest respect for all here there are the idiots out there. Try this for a tale, can't vouch for total authenticity but came from a good source. Man goes to Belgium, poking about gets offered a Stokes Mortar shell, about 60 odd pounds of explosive. Is assured by seller it is totally safe and inert. So buys it for about £300, and happily brings it home. Shows it off to a mate who goes white and from a safe distance yells' It's Live!!!! so manny decides to take it back to the man he bought it off. Dumps it in boot of car of the Continent, gets stopped by Customs, result about 10 years for illegal importation of explosive. :-D
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I've got nine large flattened rounds from 'something' of a largish caliber (too big for MG) which were very easy to remove from a line of impact holes in some soft rock on Malta. Also got a photo somewhere of the holes! A stack of quite good nick spent bullets from an area of sand on the same island near St Pauls Bay. I'm guessing these were fired from an aircraft. Also have a piece from the PR B-29 which took the film of the bomb dropping on Hiroshima. This later crashed in the UK on local moors, lots of the good bits have gone in the last 20 years. Three live .303 rounds from a Defiant shot down by 'friendly fire' ( reputedly a Spit.) from the same area.

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You know what it was Jack.. will try & find a photo... fancy it sitting there for 60 years & no one noticing it, not a bad find for my first venture in to a deep shelter... & found that fag packet too :-D

 

 

Going to have to remind me Lee :oops:

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We found a smallish cannon ball - about 3" dia - out in the yard when we excavated a drain some years ago . Our local historian had a look & took in to the castle museum who confirmed what it was & estimated it to the civil war as Cromwell's forces passed this way around the time of the siege of Colchester.

Also took a 303 round out of the brickwork of a house we were working on but as it is within spitting distance of Fingringhoe range not too much of a surprise .

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