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If its as muddy as last year it will great fun, just take the right kit... camera for the ladies wrestlin... wrong forum

You might be unlucky there. There is one big advantage over the new site to the Hop Farm

Go here and type the location in the box on the right for flood maps.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/37793.aspx

 

You will notice that you can see the racecourse but the Hop Farm is a sea of blue indicating it is a fuctional flood plain.

 

Mike

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You might be unlucky there. There is one big advantage over the new site to the Hop Farm

Go here and type the location in the box on the right for flood maps.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/37793.aspx

 

You will notice that you can see the racecourse but the Hop Farm is a sea of blue indicating it is a fuctional flood plain.

 

Mike

 

That's going to be a blow for the U-Boat group!!! :D:D:D

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Hi..

 

Must say we're looking forward to our 13th visit to W&P.

 

It did seem to be getting a little less entertaining in the re-enactment side of things in the arena in recent years and we just put it down to the credit crunch and the cost of fuel etc, but still wouldn't miss it for anything even with the 1100 mile round trip and accommodation expense. We're hoping that the new venue will revitalise the show. Hadn't considered that things weren't working out so well between the W&P team and the Hop Farm.

 

My friends and colleagues up here in SW Scotland must be heartily sick of hearing me rant on about this event, and how they're missing out by not paying a visit. The sheer number and variety of vehicle there just blows me away every time. Some of your vehicles are amazing and I can only imagine the level of commitment you guys have to keep them running and in use.

 

Just want to say thanks to one and all for making this event so entertaining.. Yes, even after struggling though the mud back in 2007 to get more pix and videos!! Big change from the previous years dust! Most awesome vehicle? Has to be that Russian tracked bulldozer that was let loose in the arena a few years ago. Never seen a dozer run so fast before..

 

We're Steve and Michelle and we love all MV's especially Russian tanks and H1's!

 

Roll on July!

 

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If your interest in things Russian extends to IFV's Steve - look us up on the Red Alliance plot in Living History and we'll see if we can sort you a ride in the OT-90, a Czech variant of the BMP-1. :D

 

Cheers..

 

Might just take you up on that. This year we're accompanied by my son as a birthday treat (he's 31, but just a big kid like his Dad!).

 

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Well - that's a little bit different to what was said on Saturday....... :-D :-D

Living History was said to come around in an L shape around the pond - digging in and vehicle movements to the arena in the centre section, no digging in, no movement at all of vehicles around the outer edge of the track. The highlighted section there was designated as WW2 German....

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Well - that's a little bit different to what was said on Saturday....... :-D :-D

Living History was said to come around in an L shape around the pond - digging in and vehicle movements to the arena in the centre section, no digging in, no movement at all of vehicles around the outer edge of the track. The highlighted section there was designated as WW2 German....

 

Dunno mate, just received it via email from someone..

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No worries mate :-D

The situation will, I think, be fluid for the next couple of months. Suffice it for now to say that what Greg and Rex told us left everyone rather happy and looking forwards to the next meeting sometime in May! :-D :-D

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Sorry, Artists Rifles, but I think the plan shows the same as we were told on Sat - the pink highlighted part is 'Digging Living History'

 

It looks like it's going to be a good venue to me and the W&P team are really working hard, trying to 'get it right'

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http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/high_speed_train_for_war_and_peace_show_1_1959685

 

High Speed trains from London will be making a stop at Westenhanger Station for the weekend of The War and Peace Revival, the world’s largest military vehicle event.

Folkestone Racecourse is the location for the event which runs from Wednesday to Sunday, July 17-21.

The journey from London St Pancras to Westenhanger will be around 45 minutes.

Rex Cadman, event spokesman, said: “We’re really excited that Southeastern has given this support to War and Peace. With the mainline rail station right next door, it is excellent to be working with our local rail operator. We’re hoping we can encourage more visitors to the War and Peace Revival to travel by train.”

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Sorry, Artists Rifles, but I think the plan shows the same as we were told on Sat - the pink highlighted part is 'Digging Living History'

 

It looks like it's going to be a good venue to me and the W&P team are really working hard, trying to 'get it right'

 

That highlighted part to me looks like the part Greg showed us out on the field as being for all the WW2 German groups up to the first cross-ditch then (possibly) WW1 groups to the next cross-ditch. WW2 Allied went on from there around the corner and so on and I'm fairly certain he said the arena encompassed the lake as more than one asked about use of it for amphib demo's.

 

We will know for certain when the authorized site map is released by the W&P organizers.

 

Whatever/however it is organised though - it will be a success and all there will have a great time.... :D:D

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http://forum.emlra.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12271&p=86226#p86226

 

Obviously you will have to be a member of the EMLRA Forum to read this.. Some of this will apply to you, some may be not..

Seems like NO ONE will be allowed to leave the site before 6.30pm on the Sunday.. same as they do at Military Odyssey..

 

Also..

When the show is open to the public (which is wed 17th to sun 21st, inc) between the hours of 0900 and 18:30 there is zero vehicle movement, so if you have not booked in before then you will have a very long wait to get in.The only exception to this rule is obviously those vehicles being escorted to the arena for events. This is done because the WAP show gets extremely busy with public....

 

...There will be no early darts. Vehicle movement restrictions prevent you leaving before 18:30

 

As said previously nothing is set in stone until you have heard it direct from the Organisers..

 

Feel free to discuss..

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They always had the rule about leaving early on Sunday, and everyone always left early. Unfortunately when people have a long drive home, at slow speed in an old vehicle, they are going to leave early.. it takes us more than 4 hours to get home, and people come from further afield than we do.

 

Similarly they have always had the rule about vehicle movement, it never stopped the people driving around, or the kids on quad bikes!

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They always had the rule about leaving early on Sunday, and everyone always left early. Unfortunately when people have a long drive home, at slow speed in an old vehicle, they are going to leave early.. it takes us more than 4 hours to get home, and people come from further afield than we do.

 

Similarly they have always had the rule about vehicle movement, it never stopped the people driving around, or the kids on quad bikes!

 

It takes us six hours to get home and last year we decided to stay till the Monday before hoofing it.

 

I can't see how they could stop someone who wants to go home and doesn't fancy arriving home in the early morning. It maybe that this years show will stop all the things that used to go on, fresh venue new broom and all that.

 

Its pie in the sky or gossip till we get to the show and see how it is.

 

Enjoy it its going to be different thats the fun part of it, lets face it we all knew where everything was at the hop farm so the change should be good.

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I was pleased that last year a sense of reality had sunk in as I thought the show officially closed after the prize giving to allow people to catch ferries & make their long journeys in their slow moving vehicles. That seemed a pragmatic & helpful policy which is now to be rescinded?

 

Even the Great Dorset Steam Fair who know a thing about running shows (since 1968) have at last got real with this, so their show now ends at 1500 on the Sunday. Taking this into account the public pay less on a Sunday as there is less to see & less time to see it, not necessarily a loss as it encourages attendance on the main show days.

 

So travelling home in the Shorland will become an after dark journey for part of the way, even assuming no breakdowns. So might just take the Wolf & zoom home in comfort in at least half the time. Yes I know I could spend the Sunday night on site, but in previous years I have experienced a descent into a form of lawlessness I don't wish to encounter again.

 

I'm none too keen on the open plan camping. I can see the point of green & in period camping, but at other shows I have had the public & their children entering tentage either because they genuinely thought it was part of the display or for thieving "oh sorry mate just looking".

 

I find it quite easy to trip over my own guy ropes & I know where they are! Much easier for a visitor to trip over. At some shows to make my tent more risk averse I have wrapped hi-viz tape on the guys, but we are not allowed to do this I assume. I'm none too keen on the prospect of boiling a kettle to worry if some child is going to go charging into it.

 

So I'm definitely not not keen on taking a tent. So it will be a sleep in the vehicle effort. Spending a week inside a Shorland is cramped & uncomfortable. The Wolf is much more spacious, well illuminated & has many creature comforts.

 

So it looks as if its going to be impractical to take the worlds oldest Shorland. Instead I shall be in a relatively modern vehicle which is not terribly interesting, just my every day vehicle.

 

But on the positive side, I will have halved my travelling time & more than halved my fuel bill so I can spend more money in the stalls & be able to get home in good time in a not very interesting vehicle :-D

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now a 1500 finish time on the sunday sounds very sensible i for one will not be staying till 1830 on the sunday then driving 70 miles in a ferret so looks like leaving sun morning i find sunday is a anti climax anyway as come midday all you are doing is clock watching and packing up slowly!

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