griff66 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 any one had experience of using straight veg oil in diesel cars ( duty paid of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rick W Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I think I started a thread on this many moons ago, you will have to look for it though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Topdog Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 The locals in Medway, especially the Poles use anything they can get but it tends to be in older "R" reg sort of stuff. Filter it properly and maybe add a bit of real diesel. I certainly would not want to risk a modern engine but an old Landrover - give it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 griff66 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 good advice topdog, almost official! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rbrtcrowther Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Got a 2.8 turbo charged fourtrak engine in my series 3 that i run on veg oil. Goes like stink and smooth with it on veg oil. I put my veg oil through my home made centrifuge then pour it through a bed sheet into a 40 gallon drum. filter it cold so you get the animal fat out of it too. I run about one third diesel in mine in summer and about 50 50 in winter. You can use 2500liters of it without paying duty just make a note in a book in the vehicle liters and milage ect so it looks like your trying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rbrtcrowther Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 do a search on line and you will find a list of vehicles that have been proven on veg oil. bosh injector pumps are ok as are Japanese bosh copies found on the fourtrak ect. Lucas pumps are a problematic but i should think the simms and cav punps should be ok as they were designed to run on crappy fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 cosrec Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 any body found the earlier post on this suject spent nearly an hour cant find it . Veg oil OK in older vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 griff66 Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 thanks for info i spent a while looking for previous post on this no luck either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rangie Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Agreed, I did a lot of homework and came to the conclusion that anything with a Bosch VE or equivilant Jap pump would handle it no bother! As a result my 200tdi defender used to run 80pc veg or 100pc bio all year round no problems and return 27mpg. My daily driver is a 109 Canvas-Top fitted with a Nissan LD28. Indirect injection and a jap copy of a VE makes for a 70pc veg or 100pc bio 32mpg 60mph flyer!! 11k miles since april so far with no drop in economy, performance or oil quality/contamination (I change every 5k religiously anyway). My only problem was my manual lift pump/fuel filter housing that did not have viton seals fitted so failed. Rectified now.......:-D My old 2.5n/a 110 used to love 80pc veg as well. Although I haven't heard favourable things about the CAV DPA/DPS injection pumps, I had 2 years of trouble-free use! Alec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 cosrec Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) I think the thread we have been looking for is Forum>British vehicles>Foden and Bio diesiel Put a remark on to get it on screen Edited October 11, 2011 by cosrec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 scammell 7377 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 im told but have never tried it central heating oil (50-50) and electricity sub station transformer oil also 50-50 with diesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Topdog Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Just checking Griff, you are not putting it in the Ferret are you???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sharky Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 i ran my old vauxall astra L reg with the izuzu engine for 12 months no worries on neat veg oil from the supermarket added about 15 % diesal in the winter tho else you get a lot of piston slap. also same for my old ford transit M reg . going to move back onto veg oil in my escort van soon. only problem i found was, i was perminently hungry when driving because of the aroma of cooking fat. iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 cosrec Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I know some one who as recently as early summer was running a 400 bhp O5 Reg ERF(Man) with a Cummins in it on 50/50 sump oil from local car dealers and diesel. he had a problem last year with it black smoking but it turned out to be the ECU he said it was nothing to do with the fuel he was using. Same guy told me he used to use neat used hydraulic oil from a local coal mine till it closed. He said he got all his alternative fuels for free simply dropping of IBC containers and collecting when full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 cosrec Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Just reread my last my last post and had a thought what do the people who collect waste oil do with it i know they charge for taking it away is it reycled ???? refined or used for some other purpose Once again answered my own question goggled waste oil and found its made in to non virgin fuel oil Sounds like the guy i was talking to was cutting out the middle man and saving his self some money Edited October 11, 2011 by cosrec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 RattlesnakeBob Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) I would be very wary of using ex transformer oils as they are usually PCB contaminated ...........especially if the oil has been in use for a long time... ....I don't guess ordinary diesel smoke is very healthy but PCB oil smoke is positively absolutely dangerous and VERY carcenogenic.... even if the oil just gets on your skin it can have dire consequences so be careful with that stuff.....:embarrassed: as to using Kerosene..??? ...you absolutely have to 'cut' it with the right amount of oil to get it back to being the thickness of normal road fuel.... .....the reason being is that Kerosene is only a 28sec oil and burns way way hotter than red diesel or road fuel which is 35sec..........your engine will certainly go like stink on kerosene but the exhaust valves , head and pistons won't last very long and the engine will run a lot hotter than normal doing gawd knows what other damage.......... for anyone interested..... a 'sec' rating is simply arrived at....:-|..... A given amount of fuel is poured onto a known cloth... and the number of seconds in time for a certain amount to soak through the cloth.... designates it's 'sec' rating.... ..the horrible thick black oil that a lot of industrial steam boilers used to run on was 3500sec by the way.....but if you can get that stuff it is very near in it's chemistry to crude oil... it'll need heating to be able to burn ....but as you heat it...nearly all the 'spirits' that are in crude oil are released at various stages of temperature.......SO!!!! BEWARE!!!!.. it's dangerously volatile when hot so be really careful should you try your hand at building a home made refinery!!!!! ..kerosene is a lot thinner than any diesel (red or white...which is exactly the same oil by the way... gas oil or red diesel ...call it what you will.... just has a red dye added to it....) and being thinner therefore burns a lot easier.. as most of you probably know.....ordinary diesel can be quite difficult to light with a match but kerosene will ignite almost as easily as petrol so beware......... PS: Not that I would know anthing about cutting heating fuels etc for use in a road vehicle you understand......it being rather illegal to do so... of course I have never ever partaken of such heinious criminal activities.....oh no.....no! no! no! not ever!.....:cool2: Edited October 12, 2011 by RattlesnakeBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Degsy Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 im told but have never tried it central heating oil (50-50) and electricity sub station transformer oil also 50-50 with diesel Central heating oil is quite similar to diesel and you could use it ..........if you want to lose your vehicle and have a holiday at Her Majesty's Pleasure:laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 scammell 7377 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 bob yes you are right pcb is very very bad if we find it at levels of 2 parts per million it has to be distroyed at a furnice at at least 2000 c so dont use unless you know the source it is not how long its been in use it is the date it was first used as at some point it was used when no one knew the effects of pcb andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 RattlesnakeBob Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 bob yes you are right pcb is very very bad if we find it at levels of 2 parts per million it has to be distroyed at a furnice at at least 2000 c so dont use unless you know the source it is not how long its been in use it is the date it was first used as at some point it was used when no one knew the effects of pcb andy yep yer quite right Andy.....I should have made it a bit clearer ....thats my rubbish English for you ..hahaha! .I didn't mean how long the oil had been in use...what I meant was how old the transformer was........working on the reasoning that older transformers have oil thats a lot older in them which is heavier in PCBS than modern oils..........so I always understood anyways ! hehehe!.. ............and yep yer right.... a super heat furnace is about the only way to deal with it safely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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