cellstar Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Hi, I've noticed there seems to be a great variation in the hand signals people use when directing the movement of armour and or tracked vehicles, to the degree that I don't think I've seen two people use the same set of hand motions What does everyone use? Cheers, Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bart615 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 When I was in tank transporting many, many summers ago, we used to use basic signals for moving tracked vehicles. Right arm extended to turn right, left arm extended to turn left. When it was lined up with the trailer, we put both our hands in front, almost together, with fingers extended and knuckles pointing skywards. This would indicate to the driver that you wanted him to place his hands in front where you could see them, placing them on the hull in front of him was ideal. This told the marshall/loader that the drivers hands were off the tillers. The loader would then beckon to the driver to come on by extending his arms in the air and waving the tv towards him. The next time the driver put hands on the tillers was to brake. I have seen drivers panic and pull unevenly on the tillers which caused the tv to slew left or right, sometimes with drastic and expensive results! A neutral turn was indicated by putting both your fists together, knuckles facing each other and elbows up and pointing to the left and right. Depending on which arm you fully extended outwards and to the side, indicated to the driver which way you wanted him to turn. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 croc Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 As we are talking about use of vehicles in preservation, rather than in service, there is no regulation you have to follow. It really doesn't matter a damn what signals are used but it is essential that both driver and guide are using the same system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Adrian Barrell Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 That's true but if everybody involved understands the basics, the signals should then be intuitive. The army way is the best, they have been doing it for a while now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 FourFox Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 The basic commands for manoevering in the arena at Beltring a relatively straightforward, although I wish they would re-set the wing-mirrors afterwards! I was confused by the marshal signalling to me by patting himself on the head! Upon asking what this was for? he replied 'take your directions from me'...obvious really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 The basic commands for manoevering in the arena at Beltring a relatively straightforward, although I wish they would re-set the wing-mirrors afterwards! I've only seen them move the wing mirrors of those that think they know better & take little or no notice of the W&P Marshalls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 John Pearson Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 The basic commands for manoevering in the arena at Beltring a relatively straightforward, although I wish they would re-set the wing-mirrors afterwards! I was confused by the marshal signalling to me by patting himself on the head! Upon asking what this was for? he replied 'take your directions from me'...obvious really! I think it actually means "come here" Once one of our crew did this (to someone who should have known better) while we were in the arena and we wanted the ARV because of a broken down Chieftain. Person who was by the ARV came running over on foot. "what do you want" says he, "a hat?" Well it was 30+ centigrade at the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 timbo Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I've only seen them move the wing mirrors of those that think they know better & take little or no notice of the W&P Marshalls... Surely this couldnt apply to you Jon....!? Come to think of it I have seen at least one other person turn your mirrors in...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Found this... All land forces throughout NATO use the same hand signals.You can find them all in Army FM 21-60, Manual attached Visual Signals FM 21-60.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 FourFox Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Actually, you are right! It's never happened to me in the arena, it's only Brian that gets mad enough at my reversing to resort to 'mirror bending'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 volvoc303 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 i am reminded by my other half that just becauce i did 22years in the army that a lot of people with army vehicles have never been in the miltary so have not had the training so one should check with the driver and agree first before any movements are carried out as many people have diffrent ideas ,the army method is simple to avoid accidents and is used by all branchs of the arm forces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hi, I've noticed there seems to be a great variation in the hand signals people use when directing the movement of armour and or tracked vehicles, to the degree that I don't think I've seen two people use the same set of hand motions
What does everyone use?
Cheers,
Ian
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