Adrian Barrell Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 i hadn't thought of the spares availability like that adrian. i'll tell you what else you didn't have as well, the biggest tool of all (not me). the internet and thru it this forum without these things i wouldn't have been able to convert so much of my money so quickly into 40 odd tons of historic rust eddy Isn't that the truth! I think that has made an enormous difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 [ATTACH=CONFIG]31251[/ATTACH]Adrian, not much paint here I see.......... Oh, I don't know Bob, those wheels look like new! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 those wheels look like new Ah, wheels, wouldn't that be a nice addition, at least ones that are not bent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Adrian BarrellIsn't that the truth! I think that has made an enormous difference. Yes the internet and electronic communication has been a benefit but to put the converse point of view- the internet is rightly accessable to everyone world wide and has probably been the a major cause of price inflation in historic vehicles, as one major importer/dealer put it back in 2000 when trying to recover some central American wrecks - "suddenly the sellers were aware of the value of their vehicles -willfully oblivious that the price they had seen on the internet refers to a restored runner in a western country as opposed to the often trackless engineless rotting hulk stuck in a jungle miles from adequate transport facilities. So suddenly the price of the hulk is the same as a restored vehicle, added to which transport costs quadruple because the transport guys are also aware of how valubable it will be to the to the rich gringo - end result the vehicle stays in the jungle." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 The chassis was really grim, looking back I must have been insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Bob Grundy The chassis was really grim, looking back I must have been insane. So did you get incare treatment or just have to keep taking the tablets?:nut: Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bedford Boys Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Did you repair that chassis or find another? If you did repair it, how did you go about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Yes we did have to make new chassis rails, photo shows a 36 yearold Bob spraying them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bedford Boys Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 How did you make those rails? Must've been big folders if you did them that way :nut: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 They were made as a 'foreigner' by one of the young (at the time) men who was involved with me in the restoration. From memory they were both folded and fabricated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 We are jumping ahead a little in the sequence but this one shows great progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 They are loaded and travelling back to Lincoln as I type... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protruck Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Nice one mate. give me a call when you have them, and i'll arrange a visit. Clive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 They are loaded and travelling back to Lincoln as I type... Great, here are some more Loyd pictures to get some ideas for restoration! http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?15424-bit-of-a-mixture-pre-WW2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan turner (RIP) Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 didnt I post those some months ago from the official source books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 I think you did, and hanno included the hot link to the original thread. Hanno, stop it! I told you they are going to be run of the mill TT or TPCs:D Although they would have been TTs in Belgian army service..... TPCs have better seating.... for the odd Dutch man and the like:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 The chassis was really grim, looking back I must have been insane. You were, if you remember I was doing my Antar in your yard at the time, much preffered 24 tons of easy restoration rather than your 3-4 tons of complete rust to start with. It was a credit to your skill and determination !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Steady on John ! Photo show some progress with the V8 installed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Both loaded onto the transport yesterday. The bent chassis was cut to allow packing for shipment, as I'll be fabricating new chassis rails anyway I told the seller it was fine, offload is organised at the farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) didnt I post those some months ago from the official source books? Yes you did, and as Alistair said I included a link to your thread. Don't you think Alistair is obliged to the HMVF community to build one of those 2-pdr SPGs?!? Edited July 21, 2010 by mcspool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Hanno, stop it! I told you they are going to be run of the mill TT or TPCs:D Although they would have been TTs in Belgian army service..... TPCs have better seating.... for the odd Dutch man and the like:cool2: TT, TPC, SPG, whatever, as long as you get cracking once that truck delivers your booty at the farm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 ajmac TPCs have better seating.... for the odd Dutch man and the like:cool2: Now now, I know the Loyd had a volume capacity problem but you might give Hanno a weight complex:-D. Good to hear the project is moving along if you are rebuilding them as a pair then it probably be as well to complete them as a T/T and a limber which is possibly the use that befell TPCs. Good luck with them and have fun. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) It all went well and the chassis are at the Farm in Lincoln. Photographic proof below. It was a job and a half to get them off loaded, they weigh a hell of a lot! If anyone can suggest means of ID I'd be greatful. I will be sending the photos to a friend in Holland who is a Loyd guru, so we will see. They both have 1943 and 1944 dates on them although as brake drums are a consumable that may not be the best source if ID, the 1943 date I found on the bogies. So they could well be 1943 manufacture - more proof required. Both have the high towing uprights as the back so they may be both TTs (Tracked Towing). When they were turned over in the yard, I was happy to find that all of the control gear was still in place, bent, but all in place, even wiring and some wood remaining on the tiller hand grips. Although my friend Jon who did the tractor driving looks worried, he was trying to work out how to get the heavy lump across the yard to the storage area without tipping the tractor over (we dragged it on a pallet in the end)! They are now in the long grass, just like they were in Belgium for 40 years. Oh, I did clean up an Engine ID plate which stated it had been rebuilt in 1963, so the Belgian army used Loyds for a LONG time! I have the 'Bullet' proof 7mm plate from the front of both vehicles, but it didn't prove very bullet proof on the range :-) I presume they meant small arms, when they wrote the manual. I also found the hull support brackets were present in some cases, all be it bent down inside the chassis. Edited July 22, 2010 by ajmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 hi alastair great to see the carriers are in your hands now, i expect yesterday was a good day for you, lots of day dreaming about the finished article no doubt. keep the pics coming eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Another photo showing great progress, you would not belive that it has only been at the workshop three weeks...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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