scammell 7377 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 i would like to take this momment to wish all the great people of the forum a very merry chirstmass and a happy new year ill go with that happy christmas one and all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Well.....have you swapped it yet? Hope your not going to suddenly report job done with no exciting pictures along the way:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) work has not yet started on this project floyd has just been washed oiled up and wrapped up in his cacoon so the transformation can begin :cool2: will keep things up to date as possible on here most likely i will be seeking info and advice from many people as i want this to be the mutts nutts nick Edited January 11, 2011 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Looks like someone's got a fan! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300512236563&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) well me and oldgun have been chaseing doner trucks and engines. didant come home with any thing as yet as we got messed about with the first truck we looked at . but have now found a l10 250 in an atkinson and many 290s and 325s which are sat on the floor. doser simply removeing the intercooler from a 325 make it a 290 ? and what makes the diffrerence between a 250 and 290. can a 250 be tweeked to a 290 ? sorry about the stupid questions nick Edited January 11, 2011 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Not too sure how the figures are arrived at myself but some types of external damper models (called Fixed Time) have a water/air after-cooler hidden inside the intake manifold, identifiable by the water connections. Mine is the STC type which does not have this feature and no external inter-cooler was used in the donor truck, although the data plate says it is a 290. I am puzzled as to how it can produce this amount of power (if it does), I have seen 220 versions that look the just same as mine. Another type called CELECT has electronic control identified by a square box on the l/h side of the block and no coolant pipes to the manifold, presumably these use a separate inter-cooler. When looking at engines on the floor it would be easy to make the wrong choice, obviously a donor truck is best, I would think most inter-coolers would fit in place of an Explorer oil cooler which would become redundant any way, and for the rev counter which is type specific I believe. Then there are the internal damped types of which I know nothing.. Studying the manual for clues, this may take a while.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) very interesting reading that bernard the ones i have looked at on the floor today which i can see runnning if i wish . are non electric and have an external intercooler . i did not manage to get the cab up on the atkinson but it has a 250 hp cummins l10 which i can see running and then just have it choped so i end up with the usefull bits and no junk. but if i end if with the 250 i will just have to go to halfords and raid the fake numbers to badge it up as a 290 :angel: i was thinking that the hp output must be either down to size of turbo or something to do with pump ? Edited January 11, 2011 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) It'll be the inter-cooler or pump, not the turbo, apparently if you had a Cummins rebuild they would adjust the output to your requirements...within reason:D. edit second thoughts, the pump only supplies constant pressure as per common rail, so injector settings would seem to be the key to hp, more reading needed. Edited January 10, 2011 by gritineye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 It'll be the inter-cooler or pump, not the turbo, apparently if you had a Cummins rebuild they would adjust the output to your requirements...within reason:D. more VA VA VOOM :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Is the gearbox really up to 290hp? :shake: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Is the gearbox really up to 290hp? :shake: PARTY POOPER:noyay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 second thoughts, the pump only supplies constant pressure as per common rail, so injector settings would seem to be the key to hp, more reading needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 second thoughts, the pump only supplies constant pressure as per common rail, so injector settings would seem to be the key to hp, more reading needed. ahh that mite explain the need for one of these then http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CUMMINS-INJECTOR-ADJUSTER-KIT-/370472861801?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Tools_Generators_ET&hash=item5641e74069 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 The old ones ca be set up on the third pushrod similar to setting valve clearences only it's set with a inch pounds torque wrench. Been a long while since i saw anyone play with one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protruck Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Hi Nick. This is the same tool that is used on the Leyland T45 290bhp and scammell S24 350 big Cam,and 400 NTE cummins engines. If you need any info give me a shout as i have some info on it from one of my Big Cam engine manuals. just PM me your home email and i'll fire it over to you. the only thing that looks like is missing in that kit is the angled adaptor for the dial gauge but i'm sure i have a spare in my kit in the van. The cummins Number for the kit on ebay is 3375842 if you are going to buy it check with Cummins at wellingbourgh that this is the correct kit for the engine as there are 5 or 6 different ones with different attachments in the kit. Hope this helps Clive Edited January 12, 2011 by protruck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor698 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 is the gearbox really up to 290hp? :shake: o yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hows about a nice gardener 6LW, Nice and steady:sleep:, economical:flowers:, reliable:saluting:. You could leave it ticking over while we all sit round it drinking tea with digestives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Hi Nick. This is the same tool that is used on the Leyland T45 290bhp and scammell S24 350 big Cam,and 400 NTE cummins engines. If you need any info give me a shout as i have some info on it from one of my Big Cam engine manuals. just PM me your home email and i'll fire it over to you. the only thing that looks like is missing in that kit is the angled adaptor for the dial gauge but i'm sure i have a spare in my kit in the van. The cummins Number for the kit on ebay is 3375842 if you are going to buy it check with Cummins at wellingbourgh that this is the correct kit for the engine as there are 5 or 6 different ones with different attachments in the kit. Hope this helps Clive thanks for the info clive just trying to understand how u uprate an L10 the job its self is problerly best left to some one with a bit more understanding than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Hows about a nice gardener 6LW, Nice and steady:sleep:, economical:flowers:, reliable:saluting:. You could leave it ticking over while we all sit round it drinking tea with digestives. well the only problem with that rob is that i am really not one for digestives i am more of a jammy dogger / custard cream kinda guy i need a little extra in my biscuit and i spose that goes for my engines too .:cool2: any way i got fed up of tripping over gardners while looking for an l10 the other day, poxy things are everywhere Edited January 13, 2011 by younggun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protruck Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Hi Nick. There is one on fle bay. Item number 230570915229 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230570915229&ru=http://shop.ebay.co.uk:80/%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3984.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D230570915229%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_500wt_1156 Not sure what slit hole is. Hope this helps Clive Edited January 13, 2011 by protruck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 That engine has the type of front mount you need, and the vertical mounting faces cast on the clutch housing are good (some are sloping) , but the fixed fan mount is a problem, the belt driven one is easily moved up to suit the rad cowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 That engine has the type of front mount you need, and the vertical mounting faces cast on the clutch housing are good (some are sloping) , but the fixed fan mount is a problem, the belt driven one is easily moved up to suit the rad cowl. i am looking for the same fan mounts and engine mounts as yours bernard cant the front mount be changed ? i am sending oldgun out to check out the atkinson tomorow as i am stuck in scotland till sataday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Front mount bracket can be changed easily, I hadn't seen that type so modified mine which uses two rubber mountings, not so neat at all... Keep pushing hards with the van mate, you've got a lot to do at home... Edited January 13, 2011 by gritineye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Front mount bracket can be changed easily, I hadn't seen that type so modified mine which uses two rubber mountings, not so neat at all... i know where i can find rite front mountaings just means i have to find the rite rear and fan mount now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Moon and stars Nick, soon have em lined up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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