Snapper Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 No need to say any more about the stunning restoration of this vehicle done by ToocleverMike. It is brilliant. It now lives with me in Essex. I should have been at Mayhem, but stuff came up on Friday which put an end to that. Sorry. So, here is the MUTT in Westcliff On Sea. She is class. There are a couple of oil leaks to investigate but this is hardly shocking from a 37 year old machine. I am totally made up....cheers Mike! MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Nice one Mark, although it doeas resemble a gazebo on wheels somewhat!:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Whats put me off is the sign on one at MM, 'Sudden turns. Sudden death! Real vote of confidence . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Maybe its to do with the lack of roll bars. You make sure you slow down at corners Mark, we dont want you falling out the side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Hi Mark, Now I can look forward to putting the kettle on as visiting Ashingdon is a valid excuse for a drive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 that had mostly to do with the axle design on the first generation MUTTS the drive shaft axles had a single u/v joint close to the diff. for each wheel which in hard corning cause the outside wheel to tuck under and roll the vehicle in the later models they used two u/v joints per drive shaft axle to keep the camber the same as the wheel moved up and down they also added rollcages and web netting .A number of vehicles were sold at auction before the government change policy and all MUTTS had to be X cut and crushed usually a Bulldozer sometimes a ARV tank . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I would love to add one to the collection.I was so tempted by that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Very nice looking mv Snap - how many are around? More importantly - what does Mrs Barnes think?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Jack, There are plenty here... http://www.morlock-motors.de/index.php?car=151 I wouldn't mind one myself! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Nice MUTT Snapper. Very comfortable also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markheliops Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Nice MUTT Mark. As I understand it - reference to the bad handling was a fault with the A1 model. The A2 - which is the model you have - has far superior handling than the A1. I am sure any Mutt people out there will confirm the above. Markheliops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 It is very stable, even with my driving.....:coffee: All correct on the handling....the A2 is a pussycat. I am trying to wreck the gear box going from second into third, but I am actually doing very well with the driving. This is me talking about a jeep - not a bloody wrecker...I guess its what you're used to. Mrs Barnes does not like the MUTT experience any more than she liked the Iltis ...and she HATED (DOUBLE UNDERLINED - IN LUMINOUS BOLD TYPE) the Iltis. I believe there are twenty or so in the UK. I have to admit to having joined the MUTT owners forum G383.com I've been chatting with a Texas based Brit who has several Mutts, a Ferret and a Fox and an Abbot out there. Told him about the Friendly Forum and hopefully he'll have a look. MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 G.383??.Is that the MUTT version of G.503:laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 yep.... BUT I MIGHT HAVE MEANT G.838 - I'm number blind. it has it's own forum/club. For a good look you should visit Ken the Muttguru's website Ken's mutt page. It is vast and a bit bonkers in a very good way. MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 The gearbox was a recon unit we fitted at W&P last year, and has hardly done any miles so is still bedding in. I found the last time i drove it that if you do second to third a bit slower, it didn't crunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowtracdave Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Nice Mutt Snap - enjoy and ignore the rest of them ! Had a good look at the couple Brian Boys had when we bought the Snow Trac , although I'd already spent all my pocket money I was extremely tempted . They were A2's too so at least I knew it wouldn't fall over when I went round a corner :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Just for completeness here: M151 was supposedly the worst because the rear suspension was pivoted longitudinally along almost the centre line of the vehicle (like on a beetle). This and its light weight combined to cause the rear wheels to tuck under under tight, fast cornering, and over it would go. The biggest problem was that there was no warning or sense that it was about to go, it just flipped. M151A1 had an improved suspension set up but still basically the same. M151A2 (Mark's) had a re-designed rear end with the arms pivoting across the vehicle, just behind the front seats. These were much more stable. Mechanically the front end was unchanged from the M151 right through. There are, however, 2 more points of view to this story: 1. that actually MUTTs were probably no more prone to flipping than wartime jeeps when driven spiritedly by testosterone-fuelled 18 year olds. 2. That GM etc. worked to exaggerate the MUTT's poor reputation in order to stop the US military flooding the market with them on release and destroying the market for their new 4x4s. - Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Blimey Chris...! They are a great looking mv - Snap, do you want to sell it? :cool2: Jack,There are plenty here... http://www.morlock-motors.de/index.php?car=151 I wouldn't mind one myself! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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