snowtracdave Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I remember seeing the very flat remains of a carrier which had been pulled out of the marshes on Fingringhoe firing range several years ago .Having been used for live fire target & spent however many years down in the salt it was a very sad little vehicle . Unfortunately I don't have a pic of it . Incidentally - the military manual for my snow trac refers to them as Weasel -I'd never heard them referred to by that name before I bought mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dont know if it is of any help to you but when I was at Beltring on thursday I saw an excellent new book on carriers for sale by the author ,it was the first of 3 volumes and included loads of original factory drawings etc.It was £30 for a signed copy and was for sale in the re-enactors field at the arena end on a display that included 4 carriers Nigel theres a write up about it, in greensheet this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 369 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 years ago when Chris Wilkinson had a yard in St Albans there were 2 sitting minus many parts rusting away in the undergrowth does anyone else remember them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodger Baz Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 ok, took some more pictures today, check out the storage bins, completely original :-D and the unused bolt on wire cutter :-D :-D hopefully the engine will be fired up in the next week or so, were going to put some hours on the engine in a test bed before installing to be safe Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Cracking find, and a great vehicle. Looks in reasonable condition too, was it advertised or did you find it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodger Baz Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 i dont own the vehicle, it belongs to a older fella who has owned it since the 50's, me and my dad are doing it up for him, slowly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MIKE Posted July 22, 2007 Author Share Posted July 22, 2007 The Bin ware the tools go into , ware in the carrier does that go in? last pic, the Ice sraper I never seen one with a curve cut into it , my both ice scrapers are striaght on either side. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodger Baz Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 not 100% sure as they had been removed years before we started work on the bren, but whilst in france this June i tool a load of pictures of the Bren in the Bayeux museum and at some point will get round to studying them to figure out where it all goes. Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ives Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 i know of one of these rotting away in the bottom of the field in sussex shame its lost a track and the engine looks gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 i know of one of these rotting away in the bottom of the field in sussex shame its lost a track and the engine looks gone So Do I,................HANDS OFF. ;-) :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 i know of one of these rotting away in the bottom of the field in sussex shame its lost a track and the engine looks gone You do????? Interesting............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 B!tch fight!! :box: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MIKE Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share Posted July 24, 2007 WOW it's going to be a great scrap, This yank wants sidline seat! LOL BM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 It just so happens that (apart from the rusting hulk,.......... :whistle: already mentioned,...........I know of an up and running one, as well :-D.) And NO,.....................its NOT for sale; :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 :-D :-D :-D :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pearson Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Just got back from Beltring. There were about 8 carriers of different sorts and I also bought Nigel Watsons book. It is an amazing piece of work and shows that almost everything I wrote about mine is complete pifle!!! All the details, serial number etc just show it exhibits features of the Mk I Universal except for the join in the side plate on the left hand side (not the right as I wrote earlier). According to Nigel, that is unknown, all Universals have single piece sideplates so I am still unsure about its true history. If it does turn out to have been built from single sided parts, should I restore it as a fake single sider, a Mk I Universal as built or a Mk II as it ended up What do other people think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MIKE Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 I just found my # on my carrier located on the rear left angle iron #9323. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Just got back from Beltring. There were about 8 carriers of different sorts and I also bought Nigel Watsons book. It is an amazing piece of work and shows that almost everything I wrote about mine is complete pifle!!! All the details, serial number etc just show it exhibits features of the Mk I Universal except for the join in the side plate on the left hand side (not the right as I wrote earlier). According to Nigel, that is unknown, all Universals have single piece sideplates so I am still unsure about its true history. If it does turn out to have been built from single sided parts, should I restore it as a fake single sider, a Mk I Universal as built or a Mk II as it ended up What do other people think. I'd say whatever YOU are happiest with John!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 the only photo of a single sided scout I know of is in 'Making tracks'(British Carrier story 1914 to 1972 by Chamberlain and Ellis, published 1973. Still available second hand I believe. There are quite a number of photos of Boyes-equipped Carriers in service with the BEF. Is it safe to assume that any such would be Scout Carriers ? This one came up on eBay.de recently. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9791/58741wu6.th.jpg[/img] John, if you're interested, I'll happily start a thread to show the Scout shots that I have in various publications. Please go easy on me if I misidentify though ! :-) There are very few BEF era vehicles around. I think it would be great to see it built as a single-sider. If it is as far gone as you suggest then you won't be destroying too much. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 id like to see some of those pics. Always liked these and interested in the BEF vehicles as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MIKE Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 note the bren gun tripod on the lower left hand corner of the pic laying on the ground folded up. Was this carrier knocked out? BM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 The picture came from a German collection so if not knocked out was certainly abandoned (and I hope immobilised :-) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pearson Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 I have to eat so much humble pie that I need a shovel! ALL of the stuff I have written about my carrier is cr*p! It has sat under a tarpaulin for about 7 years, untouched and unlooked at until last saturday. As a result of this topic and Nigels book, I actually stripped the cover off and had a look. You know what? No side plate butt join so it was definitely NOT built as a single sider but has always been a Mk1 Universal, equipped as a Scout. Now this was odd as I clearly remember a butt joint in the side so I thought I must be going Dulally but a bit of searching and I found a plate join but it is on the lower side, not the upper. I guess everyone has one of those (behind the front suspension unit) so hopes that a single sider had survived is false. What more can I say but sorry! Number by the way is T12793, name 'Shaiba', both still visible in the paint, even though some bits of the metal are missing due to rust in other parts of the same vertical plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MIKE Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 NOW lad get that beasty up and running! Cheers BM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 :-) Well, John,.................sounds like your winter project............ :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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