Alex van de Wetering Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 7:40 PM, guy66 said: The profile for the side window's is really a complicated form ( see picture) and one part of the window slides open .I will need to solder some different profiles together to get close to the original window frame. The Brass looks like an excellent solution. The 8cwt body on my Chevrolet C8 has a similar profile along the sides, albeit a bit bigger......also seemingly pressed from one sheet back in 1940......quite impressive to be honest. I agree that making a replica in sections is the way to go, unless you can find a similar profile somewhere........a long shot....maybe firms making steel office furniture with sliding doors (?) Interesting to see the different wheel houses; I guess the angled wheel houses would better suite the interior needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share Posted August 27, 2023 Metal skin over the rear door , and in primer. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share Posted August 27, 2023 And now we have a rear door in place, made also a start on the cupboard in the left corner of the radio box. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 The rear door is ready with the little hook to keep the door open . Now the making of the two axillary generator doors for the rear righthand corner will start , these are not so easy to make but will post some updates. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 It's been a while since my last post but we kept busy on the interior of the radio box. Inside received some paint but I think that the colour needs to be just a fraction darker. The woodwork for the cupboard is ready and I need to make the metal shelves, the shelves are at a angle not to spell its contents al over the floor ones on the move. There are also webbing straps in front of each of the shelves. And finally started with the auxiliary generator cabinet. I am still looking witch type of generator so use in these Morris wireless boxes ? The cabinet looks to big to house a chorehorse generator , but maybe I have it wrong and it is well this type of generator .. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Guy is that a fan in the top ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Niels v said: Guy is that a fan in the top ? Indeed Niels , to have some ventilation in a static position because it can be very hot inside if the radio's are on and the axillary generator is running to charge the radio battery's . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Regarding the Generator, the next size up from the Chorehorse would be in a frame carried by stretcher type poles. Probably either the 1250 or 500 watt models. Give us measurement of cabinet and I will measure my examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, REME 245 said: Regarding the Generator, the next size up from the Chorehorse would be in a frame carried by stretcher type poles. Probably either the 1250 or 500 watt models. Give us measurement of cabinet and I will measure my examples. Hello . Will measure the available space in the cabinet . Had also a look what the other models of generator can be and if I am right for the 1260Watt you need the extra swith pannel to go from 110 Volt to 12 Volt for the batteries. Regards Guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 They are all 12 volt but have their own distribution panels and manufactured by several different companies using their own engines. There are some pictures etc here. The 500 watt is a bit smaller and there were some very early models which did not stay in production. I would doubt if the 1250 or 500 models would fit on your truck. The Royal Signals Museum was very friendly and helpful sending me copies of manuals. You may wish to ask them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 5 hours ago, REME 245 said: They are all 12 volt but have their own distribution panels and manufactured by several different companies using their own engines. There are some pictures etc here. The 500 watt is a bit smaller and there were some very early models which did not stay in production. I would doubt if the 1250 or 500 models would fit on your truck. The Royal Signals Museum was very friendly and helpful sending me copies of manuals. You may wish to ask them. Hello. I measured the space in the generator cabinet and it's 31" long by 21". I have a support frame on loan that came out of the same wireless box and this one fits nice in this place, but what type of generator fits on this frame ? Have the remains of a war time generator but this one is just a fraction to long for the generator cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 The one you have is a Jap 1250 watt Generator. Villars and Douglas amongst other manufactured their own version of this generator using their own engines. This would have been produced from around 43 onwards. My 500 or 550 watt which is the earlier model is approx 30 long, 22 tall and 19 wide. Does your manual not identify the output of the generator if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 There is very little about the generator in the Morris C4 manual . You are right , the remains of the generator is indeed a 1260Watt unit 35Volts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, guy66 said: There is very little about the generator in the Morris C4 manual . You are right , the remains of the generator is indeed a 1260Watt unit 35Volts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rewdco Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Could it have been one of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, rewdco said: Could it have been one of these? Don't really know , there are so many models around ! The only lead I have is the support frame I have , there need to sit a generator on and there are some fixing points on the frame that holds the generator in place and may it be needed the generator can slide out and placed in a deferent place for from de wireless truck . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) Some close-up pictures of the support cradle for the on-board generator . Edited September 20, 2023 by guy66 Extra pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 9:54 PM, guy66 said: Indeed Niels , to have some ventilation in a static position because it can be very hot inside if the radio's are on and the axillary generator is running to charge the radio battery's . I wonder if its the similar type as used in the Armored cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 The generator pictured is designed for radar use producing strange voltage. This is your other choice. These were imported to the UK throughout the war for army use. Get a size on these. WW2 Onan 1260 Watt Field Generator. NOS And Charging Unit | eBay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex van de Wetering Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I was also thinking Onan. Some Canadian Wireless vehicles were fitted with these. This picture from MLU shows a base plate that looke quite similar to yours, Guy. Onan 10LS-6 source: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?p=247937 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Suslowicz Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, REME 245 said: The generator pictured is designed for radar use producing strange voltage. This is your other choice. These were imported to the UK throughout the war for army use. Get a size on these. WW2 Onan 1260 Watt Field Generator. NOS And Charging Unit | eBay That (Onan) one is for central charging of batteries, and not for a wireless truck. To avoid giving positions away near the front, freshly charged batteries would be delivered (along with mail, rations and ammunition, etc.) and the used batteries taken back to a central location for recharging, probably on a daily basis. The recharging was done by specialist troops as the charge current and battery temperature had to be regularly monitored to avoid overcharging and damage to the batteries. The wireless truck would have a generator providing either AC mains (240 volts, 50c/s) for sets like the WS12, 33, 53 and R107, or 12 volts DC for the WS19 and WS52, etc. Wireless for the Warrior Volume 2 mentions the ONAN 1260 Watt charging set No.2 as being used in the 3-ton Command Vehicles, but I don't think it would use the charging switchboard shown in that eBay listing, and the generator is probably too large for a 15 cwt vehicle. I'd expect the standard 300 Watt BSA or Chore Horse in the cupboard, and for it to be taken outside when charging batteries - or at least have the exhaust pipe run away from the vehicle for safety reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Suslowicz Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Chris Suslowicz said: That (Onan) one is for central charging of batteries, and not for a wireless truck. (I may be completely wrong, of course!) Wireless for the Warrior Volume 2 mentions the ONAN 1260 Watt charging set No.2 as being used in the 3-ton Command Vehicles, but I don't think it would use the charging switchboard shown in that eBay listing, and the generator is probably too large for a 15 cwt vehicle. (Though it does look like it would fit that rack you've borrowed - which has vibration mountings on the baseplate and looks as though the generator assembly is designed to be easily removable (wing nuts on the clamps for the frame) for use away from the vehicle - so the multiple charging switchboard may well be an optional feature. I can't read the voltage on the rating plate, and it may be designed (or modified) for 24 volt use.) I'd expect the standard 300 Watt BSA or Chore Horse in the cupboard, and for it to be taken outside when charging batteries - or at least have the exhaust pipe run away from the vehicle for safety reasons. Now I've confused everyone (including myself) I'll go away and hide again. Apologies. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 Some extra work on the generator cabinet. Wooden frame ready and now looking to make the front removable panel and the hinging top panel. The remaining openings are covered with metal plates. In the top corner of the cabinet sits a metal shelf to store 2 gallons spare petrol cans, this will be made with the plate work for the sides of the cabinet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Suslowicz Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 6:29 PM, guy66 said: That was an RAF generator/charging set, from the Air Ministry Stores Code: 42 Generating Sets and Searchlights. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) The generator cabinet has a top lid, just need to fit a ginge and also looking how I will fit the loks . The Pyrene fire extinguisher for the radio box is also back on his place, W\|/D type 1950 but a fraction younger then the Morris . Edited September 30, 2023 by guy66 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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