Brooky Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Have just recieved this from the DVLA It is the definitive document outlong the the new Pre 1960 MOT Rules Letter to Federation and other specialist clubs on Pre 1960-Final[1].pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Thanks for posting this. One immediate question which springs to mind is how to amend incorrect 'age' information for vehicles for which the manufacturer no longer exists and for which there is no Glass's guide available. Presumably a letter from an identifying club would be acceptable in these circumstances? - MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooky Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Thanks for posting this. One immediate question which springs to mind is how to amend incorrect 'age' information for vehicles for which the manufacturer no longer exists and for which there is no Glass's guide available. Presumably a letter from an identifying club would be acceptable in these circumstances? - MG Very good question and one I will ask!!! The letter does say though "DVLA will not accept general dating certificates......" Will try to get an answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Looks fairly straightforward and well thought-out to me. The only difficulty looks to arise where there is a wish to rectify incorrect dating information for an already registered vehicle - where, if Glasses guide reference or factory records are not available, it is going to be impossible to amend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I read it as specifically stating only Glasses Guide or factory records accepted in the case of vehicles already registered but having incorrect dating information - in other cases of newly restored or imported machines (i.e. first registration) it states that dating by approved clubs will continue to be accepted. An example of the first case might be a Matador registered in 1975 as an agricultural machine on a Q plate with a manufacture date of 'unknown' - this would need Glasses or factory records to alter to 1942, a general dating certificate from a club will not be accepted. But if it was a Matador not previously registered (i.e. DVLA have no previous record) then the club dating certificate is acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooky Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 I read it as specifically stating only Glasses Guide or factory records accepted in the case of vehicles already registered but having incorrect dating information - in other cases of newly restored or imported machines (i.e. first registration) it states that dating by approved clubs will continue to be accepted. An example of the first case might be a Matador registered in 1975 as an agricultural machine on a Q plate with a manufacture date of 'unknown' - this would need Glasses or factory records to alter to 1942, a general dating certificate from a club will not be accepted. But if it was a Matador not previously registered (i.e. DVLA have no previous record) then the club dating certificate is acceptable. That is how I understand it and that is how it reads However the Matador would be under the existing rules for an LGV Another example is a Champ built 1955 but not registered until 1970 or a S1 Land Rover built 1957 and not registered until 1968 It does say though that a dating certificate would not be accepted I am in the process of requesting clarification (in my position of MVT Verification Officer) from the DVLA Watch this space!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry275 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Thanks for posting Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big ray Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Have just recieved this from the DVLAIt is the definitive document outlong the the new Pre 1960 MOT Rules Thank you for the info, I will make it available to all of our members. N.S. Area MVT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooky Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Should be available on the MVT website as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Worth printing and keeping a copy in the vehicle or the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big ray Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Worth printing and keeping a copy in the vehicle or the next few months. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303monkey Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Hello there. I have a Morris MRA-1 who's weight is just below 3500KG. Can anyone explain whether the new MOT exemption rules will allow me to use the the vehicle laden (for personal non-comercial use). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 If the vehicle is taxed as Historic then you cannot use it laden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 A vehicle licenced (Taxed) as Historic can be used laden for personal use. (not sure about commercial without checking.) The pre 1960 MOT / Plating + Testing Exemption only allows unladen use. I have 1967 Bedford RL. It can be licenced as Historic but as it is later than 1960 it needs an annual test. Once tested and licenced it can be used laden. If it was a pre 1960 RL it could be licenced as Historic and used unladen without testing, it would need to be tested to be used laden but would still be licenced as Historic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbyHumber Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 That is how I understand it and that is how it readsHowever the Matador would be under the existing rules for an LGV Another example is a Champ built 1955 but not registered until 1970 or a S1 Land Rover built 1957 and not registered until 1968 It does say though that a dating certificate would not be accepted I am in the process of requesting clarification (in my position of MVT Verification Officer) from the DVLA Watch this space!!!! Hello, I've been looking at this thread as I'm one of the people with a 1955 champ and a V5 that says date of first registration of1968, but I can't spot the outcome of the clarification that you refer to in your posting. My problem is compounded by the fact that having contacted the BMIHT they are unable to provide me with a certificate as there is a gap in their records for my chassis number. Can you or anyone else please help? Thanks in advance to anyone replying Cheers Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooky Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 If you are a member of the MVT then contact the verification officer for guidance, yours will not be the first Champ owner they have helped. If you are not in the MVT then maybe worth joining and then contacting the verification officer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbyHumber Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 If you are a member of the MVT then contact the verification officer for guidance, yours will not be the first Champ owner they have helped.If you are not in the MVT then maybe worth joining and then contacting the verification officer Thanks for the prompt reply, and yes I'm a long standing MVT member so I'll take up your advice. Kiind regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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