rog8811 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 oops! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8umB9-xVwak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughes Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Wow who tows a 14 ton BMP1(?) at speed with no tracks on a A frame with no brakeing!!!!!! Are you surprised he lost it on the corner??? :nut: j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Car driver was a bit lucky, only getting a bit of a tag, rather than a full-on frontal impact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Makes a BMW towing a caravan look sane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
private mw Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 wow :shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk3iain Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Looks like track hanging off the L/H idler, maybe it snapped during tow......at speed!!:shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 unbelievable, a that the 4320 can haul it, b that they actually did it and c that the guy in the car is still alive... cannot imagine what speed he was doing in the truck but it had to have been over 40 mph...my experience is that if your hauling a load heavier than you are, then you are on very dodgy ground after about 35-40 mph, and without brakes..pure madness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 unbelievable, a that the 4320 can haul it, b that they actually did it and c that the guy in the car is still alive... cannot imagine what speed he was doing in the truck but it had to have been over 40 mph...my experience is that if your hauling a load heavier than you are, then you are on very dodgy ground after about 35-40 mph, and without brakes..pure madness... No reason why the 4230 should not pull it - although the dead weight is 14 tons, the BMP class vehicles roll very easily. Stopping it after would be a different story though!! Unless they had a driver in the BMP to use it's brakes in conjunction with the URAL's? As to them doing it - safety wasn't usually a major concern in the Russian Army, least of all that of civilians.... As far as the army was concerned if it had to move - it moved regardless.... And by the book - 40 mph is the max. permitted speed, on or off road, for a BMP. That said - I know how the OT handles and I would not like to see it towed on an A frame at all..... Certainly would not be in the hot seat whislt it was if it had to!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavy8 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I cant be the only person who clicked play expecting to see them pull a truck out of the mud or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 No reason why the 4230 should not pull it - although the dead weight is 14 tons, the BMP class vehicles roll very easily.Stopping it after would be a different story though!! Unless they had a driver in the BMP to use it's brakes in conjunction with the URAL's? As to them doing it - safety wasn't usually a major concern in the Russian Army, least of all that of civilians.... As far as the army was concerned if it had to move - it moved regardless.... And by the book - 40 mph is the max. permitted speed, on or off road, for a BMP. That said - I know how the OT handles and I would not like to see it towed on an A frame at all..... Certainly would not be in the hot seat whislt it was if it had to!!! no real reason hence why it was towing it, but technically if you tow a vehicle that is heavier than you your asking for real trouble, the ural is 11 tons, the BMP 14-15 depending upon model and equipment etc...dicey at the best of times...and the ural is designed to pull only 11 tons, maximum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 no real reason hence why it was towing it, but technically if you tow a vehicle that is heavier than you your asking for real trouble, the ural is 11 tons, the BMP 14-15 depending upon model and equipment etc...dicey at the best of times...and the ural is designed to pull only 11 tons, maximum... Paul, If the Ural has a "drawbar pull" of 11 tons, that is at it says, it could be pulling a much heavier load / vehicle, but it would never be "pulling" the actual weight. Take a tank transporter tractor, it would not equate in weight to the tank and trailer combined. Looking at the video, it is pretty clear that too much speed was the issue here. I used to test winch equipement while working for the army, and with a tensiometer it was interesting to see just how low a pull was required to move quite heavy vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry275 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I cant be the only person who clicked play expecting to see them pull a truck out of the mud or something... Your not!!! But just as I clicked play I thought of the scene in Ireland of the car + recovery truck+ Recovery Lorry needing to be recovered from the dockside- seeing 1 after another go in Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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