nz2 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Markings Can anyone please explain the round white circle on the Leyland rear and the trailer mudguard: [ATTACH=CONFIG]84748[/ATTACH] Looking at the Leyland, the rear section of the canvas cover is split up the centre. Was this standard, as other photos ( of army trucks) shows the rear canvas as a single piece. Could this have been a RFC type in the same manner as having access through a side door to the front section of the body and a opening there in the canvas. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon king Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Markings Can anyone please explain the round white circle on the Leyland rear and the trailer mudguard: Given that some black and white film appears to show different colours than you expect, could it actually be a red/blue roundel? The RFC/RAF used such roundels on some aircraft during the war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 Please can someone identify the towing truck 'Bringing in a crash" RFC Camp Mohawk Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 Thought I would post this image which has had a good few hours work with the pixels to make it visible. The only picture I have which was taken during loading of a trailer. Eight Men taking a breather before the final push. Merry Christmas Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 New Years day Complete! sans Aircraft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minesweeper Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Brilliant! Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Superb replica, well done. Is the next stage to construct a fuselage that can represent the load ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon king Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) That's nice - and not even the RAF Museum have one! http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/ seems a good place to start if you decide to follow Bob's suggestion above What's the position with regard to lighting on "heritage" trailers - is it "as built" - or do they have to conform to current standards? Edited January 2, 2014 by simon king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSM Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Mate, great images, great combination and well done. Off to a 'flying' start for the Centenary....pardon the pun!! Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Thank your for your kind comments I have just read the thread to remind me of what was required to get to this point and realise it has spread over two and half years plus, to research, scale, develop the design, draw, redraw and build the trailer, in fact equivalent to about half the duration of the Great War. This really makes me think how much was done in such a short time for the war effort. The design has been developed from a dozen or so useful photographs out of a total of 61 where a trailer could be seen somewhere on the image, each of the dozen giving more confirmation of an idea I though I could see. Thanks to all those from who I begged an image and who gave me some direction. The last change in design was a result of image from October this year - post no 77 which showed detail of a feature which had been perplexing me for some time which I now think could be to hold Lewis gun transit chests. There are a few things to complete such as hub etching and trailer marks which I may get round to some day, however the most pressing item now is to secure a fuselage to the trailer. I think this is going to be possible and if so I could replicate the Querrieu image below (by pretending to be a heavy tender) especially as I am based only 13 minutes away at Gilsy Aerodrome later in August / September for http://www.centenaire-aerien-somme14-18.fr/. The location of most images is unknown see if you agree with my matching. Tom https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=querrieu&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x47e788e266541ead:0x40af13e8161fbc0,Querrieu,+France&gl=uk&ei=qd3FUqfHOIfS0QWNrYDADw&ved=0CKwBELYD Edited January 3, 2014 by Charawacky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz2 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 And to be really authentic a few truckloads of sand and dirt over the sealed roadway for the photo shoot. The trailer certainly looks good. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSM Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Maybe a wing or two may be an easier task/trailer load in the short term per the set up in the attached image. Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Thank your for your kind comments I have just read the thread to remind me of what was required to get to this point and realise it has spread over two and half years plus, to research, scale, develop the design, draw, redraw and build the trailer, in fact equivalent to about half the duration of the Great War. This really makes me think how much was done in such a short time for the war effort. The design has been developed from a dozen or so useful photographs out of a total of 61 where a trailer could be seen somewhere on the image, each of the dozen giving more confirmation of an idea I though I could see. Thanks to all those from who I begged an image and who gave me some direction. The last change in design was a result of image from October this year - post no 77 which showed detail of a feature which had been perplexing me for some time which I now think could be to hold Lewis gun transit chests. There are a few things to complete such as hub etching and trailer marks which I may get round to some day, however the most pressing item now is to secure a fuselage to the trailer. I think this is going to be possible and if so I could replicate the Querrieu image below (by pretending to be a heavy tender) especially as I am based only 13 minutes away at Gilsy Aerodrome later in August / September for http://www.centenaire-aerien-somme14-18.fr/. The location of most images is unknown see if you agree with my matching. Tom [ATTACH=CONFIG]85631[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]85632[/ATTACH] https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=querrieu&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x47e788e266541ead:0x40af13e8161fbc0,Querrieu,+France&gl=uk&ei=qd3FUqfHOIfS0QWNrYDADw&ved=0CKwBELYD Visited Querrieu this September and took the opportunity to photograph: Edited October 24, 2014 by Charawacky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flandersflyer Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Maybe a wing or two may be an easier task/trailer load in the short term per the set up in the attached image. Rodwell...it wouldn`t have helped it much....the BE2...or the "querk" as it was known as ...was a bit of a flying joke really....took very heavy losses during `bloody april`.....nope, the best place for it is definately on the ground... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAF Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I wouldn't dismiss the Be2 so fast - it was very good at what it was designed for. It just wasn't designed for aircraft vs aircraft fighting and sadly they kept using them for years after it was obvious that air warfare had evolved........ However, there are some in the country that might be available to be towed/disassembled - http://ww1aviationheritagetrust.co.uk This pair just moved to Bicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Bicester Heritage looks very interesting. I have already registered for the Jan 4th meeting, hopefully the weather will allow us to visit. http://bicesterheritage.co.uk/events/sunday-brunch-scramble-jan15/ Here is a nice image from the East Africa Campaign 1915 sent to me today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtskull Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Very interesting photos; I always enjoy the callenge of identifying the aircraft types! I didn't recognise the aircraft in the Querrieu photo but that biplane tail arrangement is pretty unique in a relatively small aircraft and identifies it as a Hannover CL.II, CL. III or CL IIIa (impossible to say which just from the photo of the fuselage, as the main differences were in the engine and wings). I had hoped that differences in the tailplane struts might provide a clue, however I have since found enough photographic evidence to demonstrate that either arrangement could be fitted to both CL.II and CLIII, so no help. There's not a lot to go on in the East African photo with just the nose peeping out but again, there's a pretty distinctive feature in the double nose wheel; the shape of the nacelle suggested Farman to me, and so it proves: it's a Farman H.F. 27, as used by 26 (South Africa) Squadron, RFC, during the East African campaign. Edited November 30, 2014 by mtskull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Your identification is confirmed in this article http://www.historyjournal.co.uk/home/26-squadron-rfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 I make no apologies for posting this none military vehicle, I just had to share it, any one with engineering at heart cannot fail to be amazed at the proportions. FIAT were a formidable force in the European motor industry up and during WW1. Duncan Pitaway starting his 28 litre 4 cylinder 130 mph FIAT for the first time on Friday. https://polklemmeblogs.wordpress.com/2014/11/30/nice-sound-fiat-s-76/ I hope you enjoy it. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon_M Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I think we'll let you away with that. Heck of an engine for that size of frame, you could hold the engine steady and just spin the car round it. :blush: Of course if you were talking interesting machines that WW2 prevented the development of... http://bugatti100p.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I make no apologies for posting this none military vehicle, I just had to share it, any one with engineering at heart cannot fail to be amazed at the proportions. FIAT were a formidable force in the European motor industry up and during WW1. Duncan Pitaway starting his 28 litre 4 cylinder 130 mph FIAT for the first time on Friday. https://polklemmeblogs.wordpress.com/2014/11/30/nice-sound-fiat-s-76/ I hope you enjoy it. Tom I VERY much enjoyed that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flandersflyer Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I wouldn't dismiss the Be2 so fast - it was very good at what it was designed for. It just wasn't designed for aircraft vs aircraft fighting and sadly they kept using them for years after it was obvious that air warfare had evolved........ However, there are some in the country that might be available to be towed/disassembled - http://ww1aviationheritagetrust.co.uk This pair just moved to Bicester. Not surprisingly there was an inquiry into why such hoplessly obsolete aircraft were still at the front. one of the main drawbacks with the Be2 was that in order to maintain its centre of gravity it required the layout of the observer sitting in front of the pilot. This coupled with extensive wire bracing for the high bay wings...and its poor climb rate & altitude performance left it very vulnerable to attack...particularly from below and to the rear...where the observer had to stand up and fire over the pilots head to the rear.... If bombs were to be carried then the observer had to be left at the airfield. It did enjoy a brief new lease of life though protecting London on the home front. Albert Ball summed it up as a "bloody awful aeroplane" ....although it did have inherent stability....a good quality for observation and aerial photography duties etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charawacky Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Although none military, here is a lovely panoramic image of an early very unusual lorry recovering a Bleriot aircraft. This is Drexel's aircraft which was attending the Scottish International Aviation Meeting at Lanark on the 12th of August 1910 when after setting the world altitude record of 6,750 feet in his Bleroit monoplane fitted with a 7 cylinder 50 hp Gnome engine. He was forced to land at Cobbinshaw some distance from Lanark having run out of fuel. The recovery lorry is very interesting as the manufacturer went out of business in 1914 so they probbly did not supply the military. Any Suggestions? [ATTACH=CONFIG]99673[/ATTACH] Edited January 6, 2015 by Charawacky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSM Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Tom the latest edition of an Australian quarterly Aviation magazine called "Flightpath" contains an article that will interest you. Article is titled 'From Palestine to Bull Creek' - the latter being the site of the Aviation Heritage Museum of West Australia (Perth). Material is from donated records and an album of images related to the downing and capture of an Albatross by members of the 1st Sqn. AFC and the 9th LH. Researcher's name is Mike Mirkovic. Great pic of a crossley trailer combo towing the wingless Albatross plus another of the trailer from the other side. Don't recall seeing these images before. Surprising what the centenary is pulling from the woodwork! Don't know if said magazine is available in the UK so PM me if you require details. Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Alternatively we have a copy in the RAF Museum Library. I've had words with our periodical chap for not noticing, and pointing out to me, the photos!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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