airportable Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 My knowledge on this bayonet is a little limited. Understand was issued in 1946 only to the Guards Brigade, mainly for ceremonial use. Seems a rather expensive bayonet for that use only. Fitted .303 No. 4, Sten Mk.V. But also found ref. it was for the EM2 assault rifle. Any one know if that is correct or of further versions. Thanks. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 thats a nice bayonet mate Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Thanks Mark. Yes it is too cold to be outside under our Landies :-D. Good job we have the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue red blue Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 looks like the for runner for the s.l.r one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 In a way it was. A very intresting era of British bayonets. You should see the various pattns. of the No. 5! What about the No. 9! The various No. 4's, some so rare never seen :wow: any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 The No 7 is a nice tool the Tufnel handle is very nice to handle. The metal work does push into the hand though. Mine was a legacy from an old friend, who died very young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 These are usualy encountered with BROWN Tuffnel grips. The GUARDS were the FIRST to recieve them in Service because they looked bigger & better on a No.4 Rifle on Cerimonial duties! The version for the Experimental EM1 Rifle project was SIMILAR, but NOT the same! It had a MUCH SMALLER hole in the cross guard for the projecting Rifle barrel muzzle. Unusualy a bayonet that was overly complecated for it's intended task! It aslo was a weak design, in that the 'Pommel' was able to rotate 3069 degrees & lock in either of two positions. That was a weak centre point in this Bayonet & fractures happend frequently! Interesting point in the spares parts list for the MKV Sten. Is the fact that the sten MKV had THIS bayonet only as the approved issue! BUT, the sten could in fact accept ANY of the spike bayonet series range! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Was the No. 7 not removed from use with the No4 rifle because some one discharged a round when the bayonet wasn't locked and the round and bayo disintegrated. After this event, it was only to be used on the MK5 sten. This may of course be one of those urban myths as I've only ever read about it second hand, never seen an official directive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 :angel: Was the No. 7 not removed from use with the No4 rifle because some one discharged a round when the bayonet wasn't locked and the round and bayo disintegrated. After this event, it was only to be used on the MK5 sten. This may of course be one of those urban myths as I've only ever read about it second hand, never seen an official directive. It was removed because it was an ineffcient & expensive design! I have no doubt that there were indeed incidents of bayonets getting 'Damaged' through the negligence of the user incorrectly fitting the Bayonet. This also happens to a LOT of Bayonets from EVERY concievable Country in Service. When the user does not fit & CHECK that the Bayonet IS fitted properly! I have written countless reports as 'expert witness' statements in Service. Used as evidence against a poor unfortunate Squaddie who failed to fit his bayonet correctly. The resultant Bullet exiting the barrel hit the spines & shattered blades VERY efficiently! There is a clear expalination in the Rifles user handbooks on ftting bayonets & how they can be VERY easily & quickly checked. If the user got 'sloppy' & failed to do this. Then the resultant 'Diciplinary action' usualy ended in a Charge on OC's Orders for damaging Government Property! Remember, we ALL pay Taxes, so the recovery of funds for a replacement should fall to the negligent, & NOT the Tax payer again!.....:angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Thanks folks. Very intresting info. I've come accross maroon grips but not brown. Looks like I'm looking for at least three other versions for the collection! Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 Bit cold outside to work on Landi. so thought I would add a pic. of the No.9 (with a No.4 thrown in for good measure) to add to the intrest. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 Thought I would post a pic or two of the No.5. I'm now a little confused about wether this one is Mk.II as my ref. books state or Mk.I as in my L2A3 users hand book, dated 1977. Ref. books state Mk.I became oboslete 1947. Mk.I, I thought only had one screw bolt securing the grips. A very rare bayonet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbayonetww2 Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 My knowledge on this bayonet is a little limited. Understand was issued in 1946 only to the Guards Brigade, mainly for ceremonial use. Seems a rather expensive bayonet for that use only.Fitted .303 No. 4, Sten Mk.V. But also found ref. it was for the EM2 assault rifle. Any one know if that is correct or of further versions. Thanks. Andy. Hi, I've been collecting Bayonets for a few years and found some good reference books you might be interested in. By far the best one for British Bayonet I've found history is by Graham Priest's " Spirit of the Pike". Its still in the shops. You could try: http://www.battledressandbayonet.com/prod_desc_SPIRITPIKE.html?sno=298 Hope this helps. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 Thanks Doug for the info. will look it up. I used to correspond with Graham many,many years ago over bayonets, and in particular the socket bayonet. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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