ajmac Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 We have organised to take two Land Rovers with plant trailers so we are well in with the weight limits. Two ferry tickets and some fuel turns out to be much cheaper than truck hire and the extra ferry charge. Plus Jenni has never been to Mainland Europe before so she is looking forward to the adventure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 it sounds great, that scrap yard looks like an aladins cave of ww2 armour, do us a favour don't forget to take your camera. all the best eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 I'll take the camera when I go, for sure. I thought I'd point people to the 'transport' heading as my 3.5 tonne plant trailer that a friend uses to move bits of Universal Carriers around is out of commission at the moment (found out yesterday) so I'll need to find another. Will phone around today and get some quotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 hi alistair i paid £40 to hire mine for 2 days so that might give you an idea of the going rate, personally i thought he was cheap, unfortunately it's in manchester so no use to you i'm afraid eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 I surprised that Loyd carrier turned up. Your right again Steve:D The guy has told me that he recovered both chassis from a range in Belgium over the winter, it is still a live range and he only had 1-2 days every 20 to do the recovery so it took a couple on months in total! Will get the exact details when I go over and meet him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) The Belgians used an interesting Loyd Carrier called the CATI which was a SPG A/T gun using a low pressure 90mm tube on a 6pdr A/t gun breach and recuporator built by the Belgian firm Mecar. See forum.valka.cz/.../BEL-Loyd-90-mm-CATI/p/35831 Edited July 1, 2010 by steveo578 addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 We have organised to take two Land Rovers with plant trailers so we are well in with the weight limits. All change! They are being brought back as a part load now, MUCH cheaper, thanks Dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protruck Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Nice one mate. glad you got it sorted. Clive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 T Number? It seems that even with a complete vehicle tracking down the T number is difficult.... what are the chances of doing so with the Loyds? Apparently there is a chassis number on one of the front chassis rails (another Loyd owner told me this) but weather this is the T number as was stamped on the hull plate (in front of the driver) I don't know. I guess it could just be a Ford chassis number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 True! With some vehicles it was only ever painted on and if it's a British vehicle and the main makers plate is missing, you're out of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globalkoster Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Is saw that one Loyd has still it's engine and transfer case. Assuming it's the original engine you could tell more about the Loyd. If I remenbered correctly the differnet types of Loyd used different types of engine. Is there perhaps also a speedo cable still attached to the engine. Als this can tell something about the type. Last but not least you could have a look at the bogie wheels. These have dates on them. If 5 of the 8 are marked one perticular date then the chances are high this would be the manufacturing date. Do you have more pictures of the Loyd? I used to own a Loyd and studied the different types a lot so perhaps I can have a look at it. Br, Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 No more photos yet I'm affraid. However I have discovered that BOTH chassis have engine and transmission, a nice bit of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 This is the Loyd when it was first seen at The Myrton Motor Musem in East Lothian c.1985. I will post some more of this horror story later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 must be bad if you've got to get some-one to lean against it to hold it together:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 This is the Loyd when it was first seen at The Myrton Motor Musem in East Lothian c.1985.I will post some more of this horror story later. Caption contest. After realising how rusty it was he became fysically sick...bleeeeerrrkkk.:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 caption contest WHY DO THEY COME TO ME TO DIE !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 The second pic of the Loyd being dragged out. The chap in red is actualy saying the equivelant of "What have you done Bob......" I believe someone on the Furum will have the same expression said to him ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 The second pic of the Loyd being dragged out. In the foreground.........looks like a bonnet from a Hillman Tilly...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agripper Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Have seen restorations done on less, though does go to the debate about when is a restoration a restoration or a new build? Or is that a new or old link? :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 12, 2010 Author Share Posted July 12, 2010 I agree, it is much better to start with a more or less complete machine, but as the years progress it becomes more and more difficult. I am in contact with a Loyd owner in Holland who is in the middle of a full restoration, his starting vehicle was in mint condition (even has the hood sticks)... for a vehicle which has sat outside for decades. However even though every wartime hull panel is present not ONE can be used in the restoration due to corrosion. Once all the usable parts were seperated from the 'scrap' all he had left was the chassis and running gear, he reckons the two I aquired amount to about the same as he ended up with. The big problem is patterns, as I have no upper hull, however as the chap in Holland has offered to make drawings for me from his 'scrap' pile I am in luck. Loyds are so simple, there isn't a weld or rivet on the whole structure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eddy8men Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 it might sound funny but that looks like a really good restorable project when compared with what's left to go at these days, god help the poor buggars that want to get into restoring mv's 20 years from now but they'll still get into it you know and they'll turn rust into mv's it'll just cost them more and take longer. i often think that those guys 20 years ago had it better than us and it's right they did but the reallity is you have to get what's available to you now so alastair's knackered loyd chassis might look like a fools errand to some but in 20 years time someone will say "lucky bastard finding such complete carriers to start with i wish i'd have been round back then". :-) eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 It's true in many ways that it was easier 20+ years ago but to restore may vehicle types now is much easier. When I started, there were very few dealers and no repro parts at all. Anyway, Bobs Loyd was easy, it still had paint on it......:whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 i hadn't thought of the spares availability like that adrian. i'll tell you what else you didn't have as well, the biggest tool of all (not me). the internet and thru it this forum without these things i wouldn't have been able to convert so much of my money so quickly into 40 odd tons of historic rust eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Adrian, not much paint here I see.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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