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So have just registered and had a look around the site, have to say looks very quiet. America’s field is pretty empty with lots of spare pitches between vehicles, yes there are lots of roped off areas, but most seem to have some presence.

in previous years the fields been full the weekend before, typical that the one year I am unable to stay the whole week, so haven’t camped theres plenty of space ! Last couple of years I have had to shoe horn the family in.

I know there has been a lot of talk on various forums about boycotting the show, anyone else think its quiet?

I see the vip loos  Are back ! 

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Early days yet. A lot of setting up going on. Looking forward to making the most of it.

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Unfortunately I'll have to give it a miss this year, shame as I pass it on the way home....... but too much to do and sort out a temp kitchen before I knock mine down ready for the extension.

Will be interesting to see folks view etc, keep us informed.

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Used to look forward to marmites pics of war and peace as the show ground filled up, would build the anticipation  for the event only their for a few days this year but looking forward to it

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Was very quiet today. There doesn't seem to be as many traders as in previous years. And not much on tracks.

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It was very hot today, which was a big disincentive to come & pay £20 to traipse around the stalls getting overheated. Much of today I spent with streaming eyes & a splitting headache lying under my vehicle wearing an S6 trying to counter the effects of hay fever. Tomorrow is destined to be even hotter at 35 deg C. So I suspect it may be quiet as well.

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The view from my operating position this evening.

 

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Clive

I wont make it there this year - if you do see Mike Buckley and his friends that used to operate a large HF station near the main road please pass on my regards

Iain

73 de G0OZS

 

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Iain I'm in with Mike Buckley's lot in the same sort of spot, not just HF though. To the left you will see my yagis for 2m & 4m (using CW only). I see you are in Suffolk just before the light faded worked G4RHR on 2m who I see on QRZ boasts that there are no microphones in his station. Of course unlike the HF bands that become useless after dark I could have continued on 2m, but I was operating outdoors & it was still too hot to try to operate from the Rover.

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Ken is about 20 miles SE of me near the coast - I know him well !

73 de G0OZS

 

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So how has WPR 2019 been so far for those who made it. Unfortunately I have been cooling off in Ibiza and just returned to a heatwave!

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I visited today and my overall impression......as last year......is that the Show is now firmly geared towards pleasing the Public and not MV owners.  Fair enough if that is the direction the owner wants.  This was the penultimate show day and there were gaps in both the MV and re-enactor areas.  80% ?postwar MV's, so if WW2 is your thing, overall quality is way down.  As others have said, very little armour.  Unless you own a Jeep or L/R, forget the stalls for parts, although this has been true for a while.  I am sure the Public went away well pleased today (yesterday was quiet due to heat), but I heard many MV owners saying they would not bother again.  As noted, for the first time, I saw spaces in the re-enactor areas, so maybe that side is withdrawing support?    Dying on its feet?

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Like so many things in life this show is not quite the same as it used to be, but at least it still runs. Obviously anyone not able to enjoy it for what it is would be ill advised to attend again.

But I found it still a good meeting place for friends new & old that I wouldn't otherwise meet up with. A few bargains of documents & a radio. A lot of interesting people to talk to either at our display or looking at what others were displaying or selling.

As for sanitary arrangements they seemed well serviced in the area we were in.

So quite happy to come again another year.

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I went down for the day yesterday. Fairly quiet I thought. I normally come away having seen at least one MV that really caught my attention but this year nothing. Very little tracked armour in comparison to previous years. Number of stalls down. A lot of big names absent. Still enjoyed myself as I met up with lots of friends. The show is shrinking for certain. I would give it another go next year but I wonder if there is a better show that everyone is now going to. Here are a couple of photos of things that caught my eye on the day: 

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Was down on Tuesday, nice meeting all sorts of people with lots of vehicles. Shout out to Chris and his dad, thanks for the tips... 

my second visit so no veteran yet 

only downside is the cost, paying £600 to bring my  Spartan down was a little rich this year and paying to bring it in as well , won’t be showing every year. 

Attended 2 local events and the amount of support was overwhelming even free food and tea.... even a little towards fuel, didn’t have the heart to tell them it wouldn’t have covered  the cost of warming her up.. 

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I don't suppose torrential rain helped with the turn out on the last day either!

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On 26 July 2019 at 6:10 PM, matchlesswdg3 said:

I visited today and my overall impression......as last year......is that the Show is now firmly geared towards pleasing the Public and not MV owners.  Fair enough if that is the direction the owner wants.  This was the penultimate show day and there were gaps in both the MV and re-enactor areas.  80% ?postwar MV's, so if WW2 is your thing, overall quality is way down.  As others have said, very little armour.  Unless you own a Jeep or L/R, forget the stalls for parts, although this has been true for a while.  I am sure the Public went away well pleased today (yesterday was quiet due to heat), but I heard many MV owners saying they would not bother again.  As noted, for the first time, I saw spaces in the re-enactor areas, so maybe that side is withdrawing support?    Dying on its feet?

I'm kind of Glad I had to give it a miss, although I don't just go for the vehicles etc, as I normally look round the trade stands for a day, then the vehicles on day two, I noticed the decline of WW2 vehicles a few years back, also the lack heavy Armour.

Being set up more for the public is just business, same anywhere I guess, when one or two of the bikes are finished then my only cost is transport and will fit in the van nicely, cant say it would be the same for the heavy stuff and understand the lack of it due to logistics and costs. Maybe next year for me depending on work schedule. 

 

 

 

 

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Hi, To all. Just returned from 8 days at the show absolutely lovely. And to top it all I came home to a new log book for the Daf T244,now for some number plates.

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If WPR is now for the public and not so much for MV owners or reenactors, what is it that WPR is offering that is such a great 'pull'

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8 hours ago, SirLanceUK said:

Was down on Tuesday, nice meeting all sorts of people with lots of vehicles. Shout out to Chris and his dad, thanks for the tips... 

my second visit so no veteran yet 

only downside is the cost, paying £600 to bring my  Spartan down was a little rich this year and paying to bring it in as well , won’t be showing every year. 

Attended 2 local events and the amount of support was overwhelming even free food and tea.... even a little towards fuel, didn’t have the heart to tell them it wouldn’t have covered  the cost of warming her up.. 

With you on that one. Local shows have a good vibe, usually you can drive your vehicle there, great interest from an appreciative public, and best bit? the organiser comes  round and says the magic words 'thank you'

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No real complaints from me although I agree about the lack of stands with anything other than Jeep and LR spares.  I discovered an FV430 variant I hadn't seen before (Cervantes) and met up with several friends.

(Clive - my apologies for not returning to you but I got sidetracked replacing a friend's fuel pump, you know how it is!)

Andy

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Could we just dispel the belief that there was a wealth of Land Rover spares? There were only two dealers specialising in Land Rover parts. One selling spares for modern Land Rovers & the other a wide range bits from all eras.

Most stalls seemed to be selling uniforms, associated accoutrements & weaponry.

 

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Only two dealers doing Landie stuff......not quite true as there were a good many stalls doing miscellaneous surplus gear, including Landie bits.  Forget it if you run a WW2 Bedford/Chev/Tilly variant, etc.  Wildenbergs were the only folk with major Dodge stuff, plus Jeeparts had some.  Apparently, everyone runs a Jeep!  Maybe they do?!  And you can see why this is so.....this is where the money is, plainly.  I am not knocking it; if you run a fully commercial show to make money, presumably this is what you need to do.  As I noted, I am sure the undiscerning Public will be quite happy with such offerings.  It all makes it more important historic MV enthusiasts support the local shows, and maybe one or two of them will get the backing and enthusiasm to become the War & Peace of yore?

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Went yesterday. Took no vehicles again this year. 

No one can control the weather, but many traders packing up by lunchtime.

Even the one of the largest living history displays was being dismantled at 2pm.

For anyone who has seen the show change, all appeared very "flat".

Did enough public pay to see the "spectacle" to keep it going?

 

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