abn deuce Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 One wonder what would have happened if the design had been improved quickly enough for it the have been used during WWII A view of the first successful US Army helicopter designed by Igor Sikorsky flying past the Capitol Dome. Location: Washington, DC, US Date taken: 1943 Photographer: J. R. Eyerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 That is a fasinating image and I have always been confused as to when the first 'useable' helicopter was made. Why didn't they crack this during the war??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 That is a fasinating image and I have always been confused as to when the first 'useable' helicopter was made. Why didn't they crack this during the war??? If we'd sorted the jet engine out properly during the war, it would've helped. Helicopters only really became powerful and useful with the advent of jet turbine engines. Those chaps who turned down Frank Whittles early ideas have a lot to answer for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 . Those chaps who turned down Frank Whittles early ideas have a lot to answer for. That is so true. Wonder what the impact would of been........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 I beleive that at the time the Germans had a far more advanced helicopter design , in so much as they could fly faster and were able to carry more . but the Allies destroyed they few they had and the production facilities. some archivel footage of the different German designs flying , The posters title has to do with the Korean war claim of first combat use. still a must see video. Something went wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 a second clip with details on each machine Something went wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Amazing stuff. That FI282 looks amazingly like a modern apache without the cockpit canopy. Looks highly manouvreable too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Even more amazing that the concept was never developed given that the RAF were using Cierva Autogyros to calibrate the radar system in the late Thirties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martylee Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Hmmmm, I didn't realize that the Germans had that many helicopters and that they actually used them as well. You learn something everyday. In the youtube video there's one that does a loop!? Is that right, I thought only the Lynx did that? Thanks for posting! Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 I dont think its a vertical loop , if you notice its being flown in a tight turn next , so I d say what you are seeing is a figure eight pattern with one turn right above the cameraman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) yep something new everyday.... but I guess all my training was on American equipment so Sikorsky is credited throughout as the inventor of the helicopter. He also invented the helicopter seatbelt. This design revelation came about in his backyard testing a prototype which started bouncing. Sikorksky was thrown up into the rotor blades and smacked through the back fence . We used to have heaps of his old prototype films Edited July 6, 2010 by fesm_ndt PP spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchinuk Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 The US used helicopters for casualty evacuation in Burma, Hanna Reitch (sp?) the German test pilot used to fly early Germany helicopters INDOORS as a party trick in the Thirties, she also test piloted rocket fighters like the Me163 and flew in and out of Berlin during the last Soviet assault. jch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berna2vm Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 I had no idea that the Third Reich had developed the rotary winged aircraft to such a degree... When I watched 'The Eagle has Landed' over 30 years ago I scoffed at the use of a helicopter. It would appear that theoretically it was possible ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 The US used helicopters for casualty evacuation in Burma, Hanna Reitch (sp?) the German test pilot used to fly early Germany helicopters INDOORS as a party trick in the Thirties, she also test piloted rocket fighters like the Me163 and flew in and out of Berlin during the last Soviet assault. jch Hanna Reitch , another interesting topic.... what ever happened to her? I would be on Wikipedia but am dashing off to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewroberts.1953 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Have a look at a site called Luft46, this shows a lot of German helicopters. Many for use from Uboats, so were made to be easy to take apart etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Hanna Reitch , another interesting topic.... what ever happened to her? I would be on Wikipedia but am dashing off to work. Well an interesting read and poses some interesting thoughts as appears she was a fervent and suicidial Nazi supporter but wasn't locked up or sanctioned. http://greyfalcon.us/Hanna%20Reitsch.htm very interesting read Then she uttered the words that for so long kept her out of the history books: "Many Germans feel guilty about the war. But they don't explain the real guilt we share - that we lost." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berna2vm Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Hanna Reitch , another interesting topic.... what ever happened to her? I would be on Wikipedia but am dashing off to work. Hanna Reitch, Wonder Woman of the Third Reich... What a girl!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schliesser92 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 This example is in the helicopter museum in Bückeberg (Germany). I'm not sure if it's a restored original or a reproduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Looks like a Girocopter, any more pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 The angelus in the back ground is an autogiro, or sometimes described as a kite. It has an unpowered rotor. There is one at Headcorn, the plan is to make it flyable. Apparently it needs a wind of 32 kph to fly. To be a Helicopter, the sircraft must have a powered mainrotor, be capable of vertical take of and landing, and hover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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