Jack Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I maybe stupid, but...... why are Gun Batteries, called batteries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Because they take a big charge!!!!!! :lol: Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Isn't 'Battery', a collective name given to more that one gun 'on site'? Certainly, in books you read 'battery fire',- and that normally means, a barrage, ie pre battle of el alamein. Further 'proof', comes from Ian Hoggs, Barrage, the guns in action. The below is laying out a british field regt, of 1944/45. as a model. -quote,"The field regiment,a lieutenant-colonel's command,was sub-divided into three gun batteries and a headquaters battery. The HQ carried clerks,cooks,armourers,regimental policemen and all those odd bodies whose presence is vital but generally unsung.It also contained the adjutant and his command post and a party of surveyors. As well as the above, also contained within, communication signallers,(wireless)to the gun batteries,to the next higher HQ, and to other field reg.within the Div. The gun batteries each had eight guns: 25pdr,with a max range of 13,400 yards,........" - end of quote. Hope this is of some interest. PS, Jack, 2nd article in CMV, is as good as the 1st. congrats. All the best. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 PS, Jack, 2nd article in CMV, is as good as the 1st. congrats. All the best. Andy Cheers Andy, very much appreciated 8) Part 3 done 8) Cheers. Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 You going to post your articles up on here then Jack? So us poor people can read them :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 The origin of the term Battery is almost certainly from the ancient French, another corruption as is Artillery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 You going to post your articles up on here then Jack? So us poor people can read them :cry: :shock: , hold on, I will have a whip round for you :twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 :shock: , hold on, I will have a whip round for you :twisted: That's very generous of you Jack, if you could come up with enough for a WC52 it would be very much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I would imagine they are classed as "batteries" as they are laid out in rows as per the batteries in a radio or wireless :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Think you'll find gun batteries were in use long before electrical batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I would imagine they are classed as "batteries" as they are laid out in rows Could have been called cemetery's or sausages then ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hi all I think I have found the answer to this question please follow this link and read the bottom of the paqge: http://web2.airmail.net/napoleon/artillery_tactics.htm the bit about the 10 Grand Batteries I think that explains it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Good find Mark. Its amazing how many common military sayings originate from the French: Battery, Artillery, Brigadier, Fusileer, Revetement, Van, Enfilad and I'm sure dozens more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yes the point is identical units operating together eg an electrical battery is a battery of cells. So when you buy a 1.5 volt battery it isn't really a battery as such it is just a cell. The Joint Service Glossary JSP 110 describes a battery as "all guns, torpedo tubes, searchlights or missile launchers of the same size or calibre or used for the same purpose either installed in one ship or otherwise operating as an entity." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 HE, HE, HE HE,.......... :lol: :lol: COR, I suspect thats going to go down like a ,......No, I can't use that example, its a family forum, after all,..................,like a lead balloon. Although, thinking about it,.............................. :lol: Won battles, Yes;.....but wars :?: :?: :?: Cheers for that, Richard. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Gentlemen, I am not a moderator of this forum, but may I remind you that we have an International clientel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Not all countries are "Conflictly Gifted" like Britain!! Perhaps that is a good thing on occasions? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Wasn't so at work today :cry: Got shafted by the Germans - again!!! So much for all our work going by 2010 - looks like most of mine will be gone in a few weeks. Oh the joys of working for a "Global" company who's leaders still think Germany is the last bastion of the West against Communism..... :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Nelson: "Order the signal, Hardy." Hardy: "Aye, aye sir." Nelson: "Hold on, that's not what I dictated to the signal officer. What's the meaning of this?" Hardy: "Sorry sir?" Nelson (reading aloud): "England expects every person to do his duty, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religious persuasion or disability". "What gobbledygook is this?" Hardy: "Admiralty policy, Im afraid, sir. We're an equal opportunities employer now. We had the devil's own job getting 'England' past the censors, lest it be considered racist" Nelson: "Gadzooks, Hardy. Hand me my pipe and tobacoo." Hardy: "Sorry sir. All naval vessels have been designated smoke-free working environments." Nelson: "In that case, break open the rum ration. Let's splice the mainbrace to steel the men before battle," Hardy: "The rum ration has been abolished, Admiral. Its part of the Government's policy on binge drinking" Nelson: "Good heavens, Hardy. I suppose we'd better get on with it full speed ahead." Hardy: "I think you'll find that there's a 4 knot speed limit in this stretch of water." Nelson: "Damn it man! We are on the eve of the greatest sea battle in history. We must advance with all dispatch. Report from the crow's nest please." Hardy: "That wou't be possible, sir." Nelson: "What?" Hardy: "Health and Safety have closed the crow's nest, sir. No harness. And they said that rope ladder doesn't meet regulations. They won't let anyone up there until a proper scaffolding can be erected." Nelson: "Then get me the ship's carpenter without delay, Hardy." Hardy: "He's busy knocking up a wheelchair access to the bridge, Admiral." Nelson: 'Wheelchair access? I've never heard anything so absurd." Hardy: "Health and safety again, sir. We have to provide a barrier-free environment for the differently-abled." Nelson: " Differently-abled! I've only one arm and one eye and I refuse even to hear mention of the word. I didn't rise to the rank of admiral by playing the disability card." Hardy: "Actually, sir ... The Royal Navy is under-represented in the areas of visual impairment and limb deficiency." Nelson: "Whatever next? Give me full sail. The salt spray beckons." Hardy: "A couple of problems there too, sir. Health and safety won't let the crew up the rigging without hard hats. And they don't want anyone breathing in too much salt- haven't you seen the adverts?" Nelson: "I've never heard such infamy. Break out the cannon and tell the men to stand by to engage the enemy." Hardy: "The men are a bit worried about shooting at anyone, Admiral." Nelson: "What? This is mutiny." Hardy: "It's not that, sir. It's just that they're afraid of being charged with murder if they actually kill anyone. There's a couple of legal-aid lawyers on board, watching everyone like hawks." Nelson: "Then how are we to sink the Frenchies and the Spanish?" Hardy: "Actually, sir, we're not." Nelson: "We're not?" Hardy: "No, sir. The Frenchies and the Spanish are our European partners now. According to the Common Fisheries Policy, we shouldn't even be in this stretch of water. We could get hit with a claim for compensation." Nelson: "But you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil." Hardy: "I wouldn't let the ship's diversity co-coordinator hear you saying that sir. You'll be up on defaulters." Nelson: "You must consider every man an enemy, who speaks ill of your King." Hardy: "Not any more, sir. We must be inclusive in this multicultural age. Now put on your Kevlar vest; it's the rules." Nelson: "Don't tell me, health and safety, whatever happened to rum, sodomy and the lash?" Hardy: As I explained, sir, rum is off the menu! And there's a ban on corporal punishment." Nelson: "What about sodomy?" Hardy: "I believe it's to be encouraged, sir." Nelson: "In that case... kiss me Hardy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 :lol: :lol: :lol: 8) EXCELLENT, 8) :lol: :lol: :lol: Don't get me started on "political correctness", Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted March 15, 2006 Author Share Posted March 15, 2006 ........keep it on topic please gents :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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